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> > Serious question: Who in HN is actually looking forward to AGI existing? I am. It's he only serious answer to the question of space exploration. Rockets f

> > Serious question: Who in HN is actually looking forward to AGI existing? I am. It's he only serious answer to the question of space exploration. Rockets filled with squishy meat were never going to accomplish anything serious, unless we find a way of beating the speed of light. Further, humanities greatest weakness is that we can't plan anything long-term. Our flesh decays too rapidly and our species is one of perpetual noobs. Fields are becoming too complex to master in a single lifetime. A decent super-intelligence can not only survive indefinitely, it can plan accordingly, and it can master fields that are too complex to fit inside a single human skull. Sometimes I wonder if humanity wasn't just evolutions way of building AI's.

card_zero 1y ago
I don't agree with the point about "perpetual noobs". Fields that are too broad to fit in a single mind in a lifetime need to be made deeper, that is, better explained. If a field only gets more expansive and intricate, we're doing it wrong. Still, 130+ years of wisdom would have to be worth something, I can't say I dislike the prospect.
Noaidi 1y ago
There are a lot of hopeful assumptions in the statement. Who’s to say that if AGI is achieved that it would want us to know how to go faster than the speed of light? you’re assuming that your wisdom and your plans would be AGI’s wisdom and plans. It might end up, just locking us here down on earth, sending us back to a more balanced primitive life, and killing off a mass amount of humans in order to achieve ecological balance on the Earth so humanity can survive without having to leave the planet.. Note that that’s not something I am advocating. I’m just saying it’s a possibility.
- card_zero 1y ago
  Well, you're assuming that AGIs would see themselves as belonging to a separate faction, like aliens, instead of seeing themselves as being inorganic humans. They'd presumably be educated by human parents in human culture. We do tend to form groups based on trivial details, though, so I'm sure they'd be a subculture. But they wouldn't automatically gain any superior knowledge anyway, even if they did feel resentment for fleshy types. Being made of silicon (or whatever turns out to work) doesn't grant you knowledge of FTL, why would it?
- mapontosevenths 1y ago
  I actually assume that we'll never Crack FTL The answer isnt AI'S solving the unsolvable for us. The answer is admitting that large, fragile humans straped to big bombs isn't an answer and serves no purpose. Small power efficient AGI's can boldy go where it is impossible for us go and report back. Maybe we'll eventually crack human upload, which would also work.
ACCount37 1y ago
It's kind of ironic - that this generation of LLMs has worse executive functioning than humans do. Turns out the pre-training data doesn't really teach them that. But AIs improve, as technology tends to. Humans? Well...
bossyTeacher 1y ago
> It's he only serious answer to the question of space exploration. It is. But the world's wealthiest are not pouring billions so that human can develop better space exploration tech. The goal is making more money
more_corn 1y ago
Efficient fusion would get us around pretty quickly. Don’t get me wrong AI would be way faster. We’re nowhere near it though.

card_zero 1y ago

I don't agree with the point about "perpetual noobs". Fields that are too broad to fit in a single mind in a lifetime need to be made deeper, that is, better explained. If a field only gets more expansive and intricate, we're doing it wrong. Still, 130+ years of wisdom would have to be worth something, I can't say I dislike the prospect.

Noaidi 1y ago

There are a lot of hopeful assumptions in the statement. Who’s to say that if AGI is achieved that it would want us to know how to go faster than the speed of light? you’re assuming that your wisdom and your plans would be AGI’s wisdom and plans. It might end up, just locking us here down on earth, sending us back to a more balanced primitive life, and killing off a mass amount of humans in order to achieve ecological balance on the Earth so humanity can survive without having to leave the planet.. Note that that’s not something I am advocating. I’m just saying it’s a possibility.

card_zero 1y ago
Well, you're assuming that AGIs would see themselves as belonging to a separate faction, like aliens, instead of seeing themselves as being inorganic humans. They'd presumably be educated by human parents in human culture. We do tend to form groups based on trivial details, though, so I'm sure they'd be a subculture. But they wouldn't automatically gain any superior knowledge anyway, even if they did feel resentment for fleshy types. Being made of silicon (or whatever turns out to work) doesn't grant you knowledge of FTL, why would it?
mapontosevenths 1y ago
I actually assume that we'll never Crack FTL The answer isnt AI'S solving the unsolvable for us. The answer is admitting that large, fragile humans straped to big bombs isn't an answer and serves no purpose. Small power efficient AGI's can boldy go where it is impossible for us go and report back. Maybe we'll eventually crack human upload, which would also work.

ACCount37 1y ago

It's kind of ironic - that this generation of LLMs has worse executive functioning than humans do. Turns out the pre-training data doesn't really teach them that. But AIs improve, as technology tends to. Humans? Well...

bossyTeacher 1y ago

> It's he only serious answer to the question of space exploration. It is. But the world's wealthiest are not pouring billions so that human can develop better space exploration tech. The goal is making more money

more_corn 1y ago

Efficient fusion would get us around pretty quickly. Don’t get me wrong AI would be way faster. We’re nowhere near it though.