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Well, sounds worse as everything has to be a container then? I'll just continue with the slightly borked Arch-inside-WSL2 setup I have for that instead, as it k

Well, sounds worse as everything has to be a container then? I'll just continue with the slightly borked Arch-inside-WSL2 setup I have for that instead, as it kind of works, and continue to mostly run Arch bare metal when I can.

osigurdson 1y ago
No, only containerized things need to be in a container. For everything else you are just using Windows except it feels more Linux like with git bash and has most basic Linux tools. If you need to run a container it is a lot more like it is on Linux podman container run ... right in your Windows shell (git bash in my case). This does things behind the scenes with a podman WSL image but it is mostly seamless. I do actually start up Arch / Ubuntu / whatever in WSL for some things but mostly just use the above setup which is most Linux like without having to shell into WSL all the time. That being said, I use actual Linux / Arch whenever I can - yeah, I use Arch btw.
- CaptainOfCoit 1y ago
  > No, only containerized things need to be in a container. For everything else you are just using Windows except it feels more Linux like with git bash and has most basic Linux tools. But developer focused software is trash on Windows, if I want to remain productive I need a Linux environment so I can just run stuff without having to fuck around to configure it for Windows and what not.
  - osigurdson 1y ago
    Maybe but curious as to what you mean by developer focused software.
    - CaptainOfCoit 1y ago
      Well, I guess docker is as good of an example as anything. Using it on Linux is a much smoother experience than Windows+VM/WSL2 could ever be.
      - osigurdson 1y ago
        Oh ok. If you use podman instead there isn't as much friction. Just type "podman" instead of "docker" as the commands are the same. winget install -e --id RedHat.Podman podman run --it --rm -p 8000:8000 .. image For gitbash, add a new profile in Windows Terminal and find "bash.exe" in Program Files\Git (sorry I can't remember the details and not on Windows right now). Once you have this you can use normal Linux commands, setup a .bashrc, ls, cd ~, vi, etc. Anyway, food for thought in case you want to try a different workflow one day.
        CaptainOfCoit 1y ago
        > winget install -e --id RedHat.Podman && podman run --it --rm -p 8000:8000 .. image Where exactly does this run? Podman/Docker makes no difference, doesn't it? You still need to run a VM (WSL2 on Windows), so might as well run those directly in the WSL2 environment I already have? But again, docker in WSL2 doesn't work as directly on Linux, for whatever reason. > For gitbash, add a new profile in Windows Terminal and find "bash.exe" in Program Files\Git (sorry I can't remember the details and not on Windows right now). Once you have this you can use normal Linux commands, setup a .bashrc, ls, cd ~, vi, etc. Been there and tried that, and "git bash" on Windows is probably the worst mixmatch, and bunch of tooling gets confused when the shell is bash but the actual host is Windows.
        osigurdson 1y ago
        It sounds like you are happy with your current setup. Enjoy!

osigurdson 1y ago

No, only containerized things need to be in a container. For everything else you are just using Windows except it feels more Linux like with git bash and has most basic Linux tools. If you need to run a container it is a lot more like it is on Linux podman container run ... right in your Windows shell (git bash in my case). This does things behind the scenes with a podman WSL image but it is mostly seamless. I do actually start up Arch / Ubuntu / whatever in WSL for some things but mostly just use the above setup which is most Linux like without having to shell into WSL all the time. That being said, I use actual Linux / Arch whenever I can - yeah, I use Arch btw.

CaptainOfCoit 1y ago
> No, only containerized things need to be in a container. For everything else you are just using Windows except it feels more Linux like with git bash and has most basic Linux tools. But developer focused software is trash on Windows, if I want to remain productive I need a Linux environment so I can just run stuff without having to fuck around to configure it for Windows and what not.
- osigurdson 1y ago
  Maybe but curious as to what you mean by developer focused software.
  - CaptainOfCoit 1y ago
    Well, I guess docker is as good of an example as anything. Using it on Linux is a much smoother experience than Windows+VM/WSL2 could ever be.
    - osigurdson 1y ago
      Oh ok. If you use podman instead there isn't as much friction. Just type "podman" instead of "docker" as the commands are the same. winget install -e --id RedHat.Podman podman run --it --rm -p 8000:8000 .. image For gitbash, add a new profile in Windows Terminal and find "bash.exe" in Program Files\Git (sorry I can't remember the details and not on Windows right now). Once you have this you can use normal Linux commands, setup a .bashrc, ls, cd ~, vi, etc. Anyway, food for thought in case you want to try a different workflow one day.
      - CaptainOfCoit 1y ago
        > winget install -e --id RedHat.Podman && podman run --it --rm -p 8000:8000 .. image Where exactly does this run? Podman/Docker makes no difference, doesn't it? You still need to run a VM (WSL2 on Windows), so might as well run those directly in the WSL2 environment I already have? But again, docker in WSL2 doesn't work as directly on Linux, for whatever reason. > For gitbash, add a new profile in Windows Terminal and find "bash.exe" in Program Files\Git (sorry I can't remember the details and not on Windows right now). Once you have this you can use normal Linux commands, setup a .bashrc, ls, cd ~, vi, etc. Been there and tried that, and "git bash" on Windows is probably the worst mixmatch, and bunch of tooling gets confused when the shell is bash but the actual host is Windows.
        osigurdson 1y ago
        It sounds like you are happy with your current setup. Enjoy!