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Now that CLI tools are in fashion again... has nobody thought to recreate a modern version of Turbo C++/Pascal? I know there's Emacs and vim, but they're far t

by sph 1y ago

Now that CLI tools are in fashion again... has nobody thought to recreate a modern version of Turbo C++/Pascal? I know there's Emacs and vim, but they're far too programmable and bloated compared to the elegance of TC++, which did one job, and one job only, very well. Also, despite being an Emacs power user at this point, it's never going to be as ergonomic and well thought out with its arcane chords, while TC++ conveniently shows all possible keybinds throughout its UI.

AlexeyBrin 1y ago
FreePascal has a text mode IDE similar to the old Turbo Pascal 7.0 that you can use in a Terminal. So you can use a modern Pascal compiler from it.
coolcoder613 1y ago
Have you seen tvision[0] and turbo[1]? [0] https://github.com/magiblot/tvision https://github.com/magiblot/tvision [1] https://github.com/magiblot/turbo https://github.com/magiblot/turbo
- badsectoracula 1y ago
  There is also Free Vision which is part of Free Pascal. I used it sometime ago when i wanted to write a TUI viewer[0] for info files[1], though i never finished it (should pick it up at some point since it is mostly done). [0] https://i.imgur.com/Qvkt3W0.png https://i.imgur.com/Qvkt3W0.png [1] https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/html_node/Info-Format-Specification.html https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/html_nod...
- fithisux 1y ago
  I use it instead of edit on Windows for everything in Windows Terminal, except development where I use helix editor. It works fine with Yori too, not only CMD.
Brian_K_White 1y ago
A hundred years ago I found something called XWPE and managed to build it for sco osr5, and then pretty much never used it for real. (That doesn't imply I went with VS or similar fat ide, just that I didn't end up using xwpe for real. I tried code::blocks for a while but mostly just use geany or a plain editor.)
- lproven 1y ago
  Try Tilde. https://github.com/gphalkes/tilde https://github.com/gphalkes/tilde
  - Brian_K_White 1y ago
    They commandere the break key to use it for cut & paste? oh hell no. But thank you anyway, I understand the suggestion was well meant and it does look nice.
Dwedit 1y ago
DOS programs ran in Text Mode, and directly interacted with the keyboard hardware. Linux Terminal programs are running in an emulated terminal, and are bound by keyboard input restrictions that DOS programs did not have.

by sph 1y ago

AlexeyBrin 1y ago

FreePascal has a text mode IDE similar to the old Turbo Pascal 7.0 that you can use in a Terminal. So you can use a modern Pascal compiler from it.

coolcoder613 1y ago

Have you seen tvision[0] and turbo[1]? [0] https://github.com/magiblot/tvision https://github.com/magiblot/tvision [1] https://github.com/magiblot/turbo https://github.com/magiblot/turbo

badsectoracula 1y ago
There is also Free Vision which is part of Free Pascal. I used it sometime ago when i wanted to write a TUI viewer[0] for info files[1], though i never finished it (should pick it up at some point since it is mostly done). [0] https://i.imgur.com/Qvkt3W0.png https://i.imgur.com/Qvkt3W0.png [1] https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/html_node/Info-Format-Specification.html https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/html_nod...
fithisux 1y ago
I use it instead of edit on Windows for everything in Windows Terminal, except development where I use helix editor. It works fine with Yori too, not only CMD.

Brian_K_White 1y ago

A hundred years ago I found something called XWPE and managed to build it for sco osr5, and then pretty much never used it for real. (That doesn't imply I went with VS or similar fat ide, just that I didn't end up using xwpe for real. I tried code::blocks for a while but mostly just use geany or a plain editor.)

lproven 1y ago
Try Tilde. https://github.com/gphalkes/tilde https://github.com/gphalkes/tilde
- Brian_K_White 1y ago
  They commandere the break key to use it for cut & paste? oh hell no. But thank you anyway, I understand the suggestion was well meant and it does look nice.

Dwedit 1y ago

DOS programs ran in Text Mode, and directly interacted with the keyboard hardware. Linux Terminal programs are running in an emulated terminal, and are bound by keyboard input restrictions that DOS programs did not have.