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Early Firefox felt really responsive and it was more functional and safe than IE. What happened? I still use it, but I definitely don't feel the same about it.

by dimitar 14y ago

ibotty 14y ago
because the web has changed. try to run an old firefox (or phoenix) again. really. try it. it won't feel fast. firefox got much faster in the meantime.
petercooper 14y ago
Phoenix was a really stripped down browser compared to other browsers of the day and you couldn't install lots of interesting extensions from day one. Firefox is still pretty barebones but so are other browsers now too, and most people install a ton of extensions that make it feel less snappy to boot. A comparison via screenshots shows Firefox hasn't departed far from the spirit of Phoenix by default though. Phoenix 0.1: http://no.gd/p/phoenix-01-20120924-002927.jpg http://no.gd/p/phoenix-01-20120924-002927.jpg Firefox 16: http://no.gd/p/ff16-20120924-002834.jpg http://no.gd/p/ff16-20120924-002834.jpg
AJ007 14y ago
I was a big fan of Phoenix. What bothers me about modern Firefox is forced updates combined with surprise browser resets that break plug-ins and delete settings data. A few more of these and I'll finally have to switch 100% to Chromium (except for site testing.)
- skymt 14y ago
  Forced updates? Firefox has the usual set of update options, from automated and invisible to completely manual: http://i.imgur.com/eh84n.png http://i.imgur.com/eh84n.png
- chris_wot 14y ago
  Uh... Chromium has automatic updates by default also!
DanBC 14y ago
> What happened? I still use it, but I definitely don't feel the same about it. People stopped using text and images, and moved onto vast quantities of active content. Look at how much data is shifted for your couple of sentences.
darkstalker 14y ago
I've always disliked this current trend on how people values the quality of software by speed and "responsiveness", disregarding all other features.
mtgx 14y ago
Chrome happened. When something even better comes along, you might not be as satisfied with the old solution, especially if it's just trying to play catch-up over the next few years.
- ibotty 14y ago
  and what about a _working_ noscript, ghostery or torbutton for chrome? good luck. chrome is not even playing catch-up.

Early Firefox felt really responsive and it was more functional and safe than IE. What happened? I still use it, but I definitely don't feel the same about it.

by dimitar 14y ago

Early Firefox felt really responsive and it was more functional and safe than IE. What happened? I still use it, but I definitely don't feel the same about it.

ibotty 14y ago

because the web has changed. try to run an old firefox (or phoenix) again. really. try it. it won't feel fast. firefox got much faster in the meantime.

petercooper 14y ago

Phoenix was a really stripped down browser compared to other browsers of the day and you couldn't install lots of interesting extensions from day one. Firefox is still pretty barebones but so are other browsers now too, and most people install a ton of extensions that make it feel less snappy to boot. A comparison via screenshots shows Firefox hasn't departed far from the spirit of Phoenix by default though. Phoenix 0.1: http://no.gd/p/phoenix-01-20120924-002927.jpg http://no.gd/p/phoenix-01-20120924-002927.jpg Firefox 16: http://no.gd/p/ff16-20120924-002834.jpg http://no.gd/p/ff16-20120924-002834.jpg

AJ007 14y ago

I was a big fan of Phoenix. What bothers me about modern Firefox is forced updates combined with surprise browser resets that break plug-ins and delete settings data. A few more of these and I'll finally have to switch 100% to Chromium (except for site testing.)

skymt 14y ago
Forced updates? Firefox has the usual set of update options, from automated and invisible to completely manual: http://i.imgur.com/eh84n.png http://i.imgur.com/eh84n.png
chris_wot 14y ago
Uh... Chromium has automatic updates by default also!

DanBC 14y ago

> What happened? I still use it, but I definitely don't feel the same about it. People stopped using text and images, and moved onto vast quantities of active content. Look at how much data is shifted for your couple of sentences.

darkstalker 14y ago

I've always disliked this current trend on how people values the quality of software by speed and "responsiveness", disregarding all other features.

mtgx 14y ago

Chrome happened. When something even better comes along, you might not be as satisfied with the old solution, especially if it's just trying to play catch-up over the next few years.

ibotty 14y ago
and what about a _working_ noscript, ghostery or torbutton for chrome? good luck. chrome is not even playing catch-up.