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> you can download, install and play all gog games forever with no drm. Many games that GOG sells and a very large share of the new releases are DRMed. The Gal

> you can download, install and play all gog games forever with no drm. Many games that GOG sells and a very large share of the new releases are DRMed. The Galaxy client is often how the DRM gets applied. Want to play HoMM3 with your friends? You can still do that. Try doing the same thing with a more recent "DRM-free" game.

m463 1y ago
> Many games that GOG sells and a very large share of the new releases are DRMed. The Galaxy client is often how the DRM gets applied. Can you explain that assertion? That's not in any way what gog says. Even california law says gog sells you games (while steam only licenses them) https://www.gog.com/about_gog https://www.gog.com/about_gog I have a disconnected windows 11 vm, and install and play gog games in it all the time. Never an issue.
- thaumasiotes 1y ago
  > That's not in any way what gog says. Jesus Christ. It's exactly what GOG says. Compare https://www.gog.com/en/news/bgog_2022_update_2b_our_commitment_to_drmfree_gaming https://www.gog.com/en/news/bgog_2022_update_2b_our_commitme... > 1. The single-player mode has to be accessible offline. > 2. Games you bought and downloaded can never be taken from you or altered against your will. > 3. The GOG GALAXY client is and will remain optional for accessing single-player offline mode. > Having said that, we believe that you have the right to make an informed choice about the content that you choose to enjoy and we won’t tell you how and where you can access or store your games. To make it easier to discover titles that include features like multiplayer, unlockable cosmetics, timed events, or user-generated content, we’re adding information about such functionalities on product pages. In short, you’ll always know. If you want to play multiplayer HoMM3, you can. That's how the game was commercially released and it hasn't been updated to add DRM. Modern releases DRM the game as a matter of course, and GOG defied their user base to say that that's fine with them. Do you want to play with your friend? You need an internet connection and multiple accounts registered with the vendor. For a concrete example of Galaxy being the DRM implementation, the Gloomhaven executable you can download from GOG has the button to play multiplayer disabled. It will still work if you get around that - the functionality itself doesn't check anything. But the executable will only enable the button if you start it with Galaxy running and logged in to an account that, according to GOG, has purchased the game. That doesn't sound like "digital rights management" to you?
  - JohnFen 1y ago
    That sounds like the game has implemented multiplayer in a way that requires an external server to me, not like DRM proper. DRM would block single player as well.
    - thaumasiotes 1y ago
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      - JohnFen 1y ago
        > In the first place, you do not appear to have any idea what "DRM" means. I know perfectly well what DRM means. No need to get nasty.
        thaumasiotes 1y ago
        > I know perfectly well what DRM means. This statement is not compatible with your prior comments. Do you know what it means or not?
JohnFen 1y ago
> Many games that GOG sells and a very large share of the new releases are DRMed. The Galaxy client is often how the DRM gets applied. I haven't ever encountered this, nor have I ever encountered a GOG game that requires the use of the Galaxy client.
throaway1988 1y ago
I’ve never used Gog galaxy and i have over 250 games in my library?

m463 1y ago

> Many games that GOG sells and a very large share of the new releases are DRMed. The Galaxy client is often how the DRM gets applied. Can you explain that assertion? That's not in any way what gog says. Even california law says gog sells you games (while steam only licenses them) https://www.gog.com/about_gog https://www.gog.com/about_gog I have a disconnected windows 11 vm, and install and play gog games in it all the time. Never an issue.

thaumasiotes 1y ago
> That's not in any way what gog says. Jesus Christ. It's exactly what GOG says. Compare https://www.gog.com/en/news/bgog_2022_update_2b_our_commitment_to_drmfree_gaming https://www.gog.com/en/news/bgog_2022_update_2b_our_commitme... > 1. The single-player mode has to be accessible offline. > 2. Games you bought and downloaded can never be taken from you or altered against your will. > 3. The GOG GALAXY client is and will remain optional for accessing single-player offline mode. > Having said that, we believe that you have the right to make an informed choice about the content that you choose to enjoy and we won’t tell you how and where you can access or store your games. To make it easier to discover titles that include features like multiplayer, unlockable cosmetics, timed events, or user-generated content, we’re adding information about such functionalities on product pages. In short, you’ll always know. If you want to play multiplayer HoMM3, you can. That's how the game was commercially released and it hasn't been updated to add DRM. Modern releases DRM the game as a matter of course, and GOG defied their user base to say that that's fine with them. Do you want to play with your friend? You need an internet connection and multiple accounts registered with the vendor. For a concrete example of Galaxy being the DRM implementation, the Gloomhaven executable you can download from GOG has the button to play multiplayer disabled. It will still work if you get around that - the functionality itself doesn't check anything. But the executable will only enable the button if you start it with Galaxy running and logged in to an account that, according to GOG, has purchased the game. That doesn't sound like "digital rights management" to you?
- JohnFen 1y ago
  That sounds like the game has implemented multiplayer in a way that requires an external server to me, not like DRM proper. DRM would block single player as well.
  - thaumasiotes 1y ago
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    - JohnFen 1y ago
      > In the first place, you do not appear to have any idea what "DRM" means. I know perfectly well what DRM means. No need to get nasty.
      - thaumasiotes 1y ago
        > I know perfectly well what DRM means. This statement is not compatible with your prior comments. Do you know what it means or not?

JohnFen 1y ago

> Many games that GOG sells and a very large share of the new releases are DRMed. The Galaxy client is often how the DRM gets applied. I haven't ever encountered this, nor have I ever encountered a GOG game that requires the use of the Galaxy client.

throaway1988 1y ago

I’ve never used Gog galaxy and i have over 250 games in my library?