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I don't understand why anyone would "leave" a language that was working well for them just because of some hype. Don't get me wrong, I think we should all be s

I don't understand why anyone would "leave" a language that was working well for them just because of some hype. Don't get me wrong, I think we should all be striving to learn new things, but that doesn't mean we should just drop everything to jump on the next bandwagon.

dmix 14y ago
Why not? There are early adopters for everything. They are essential to forward progress.
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mquander 14y ago
Your statement seems self-contradictory. Should we strive to learn new things, or should we not jump on the next bandwagon? Are you saying that we should try new things but not really try them very hard, or what? There is such a thing as progress, and in my opinion the way you get it is by spending lots of time trying new things and seeing which ones work. So I'm in favor of "leaving a language that was working well for them just because of some hype."
- zobzu 14y ago
  Because hype != progress. Hype is basically a bag full of air. You can try new things, but abandon the other ones because of hype (or thinking it's better cuz "ppl who don't know anything about languages said so") instead of true technical merit is pretty fucked up :) Now then again Go ain't bad, but I don't see it being better enough than Python to switch in this case. Python in better for many things as well. Not a large step enough.
  - mquander 14y ago
    Hype is a bunch of people claiming something is good. If there are enough people, you should probably go find out whether it really is good. If it really is, then voila! Progress happened. If it's not, you stop. This guy is busy finding out, that's all.
    - zobzu 14y ago
      Fair enough, but I fear that most of the time hype comes from people who fear missing the latest boat, or who think it'll help them if they say stuff like XX is cool (a misplaced positive attitude always helps more, than misplaced criticism) With mass globalization of the hype, we have countless examples of hype - even for programming - around things that aren't especially good. Marketing people know that pretty well.

dmix 14y ago

Why not? There are early adopters for everything. They are essential to forward progress.

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mquander 14y ago

Your statement seems self-contradictory. Should we strive to learn new things, or should we not jump on the next bandwagon? Are you saying that we should try new things but not really try them very hard, or what? There is such a thing as progress, and in my opinion the way you get it is by spending lots of time trying new things and seeing which ones work. So I'm in favor of "leaving a language that was working well for them just because of some hype."

zobzu 14y ago
Because hype != progress. Hype is basically a bag full of air. You can try new things, but abandon the other ones because of hype (or thinking it's better cuz "ppl who don't know anything about languages said so") instead of true technical merit is pretty fucked up :) Now then again Go ain't bad, but I don't see it being better enough than Python to switch in this case. Python in better for many things as well. Not a large step enough.
- mquander 14y ago
  Hype is a bunch of people claiming something is good. If there are enough people, you should probably go find out whether it really is good. If it really is, then voila! Progress happened. If it's not, you stop. This guy is busy finding out, that's all.
  - zobzu 14y ago
    Fair enough, but I fear that most of the time hype comes from people who fear missing the latest boat, or who think it'll help them if they say stuff like XX is cool (a misplaced positive attitude always helps more, than misplaced criticism) With mass globalization of the hype, we have countless examples of hype - even for programming - around things that aren't especially good. Marketing people know that pretty well.