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> A bus will pretty much always be inferior to a car. I never have to clean a bus, or put gas in it, or change its oil. I don't even have to drive it. I don't

> A bus will pretty much always be inferior to a car. I never have to clean a bus, or put gas in it, or change its oil. I don't even have to drive it. I don't have to dedicate a big portion of my property to storing it, just to pay to park it somewhere else when I go out. I'll never get a ticket for leaving it in the wrong place, and I'll never have to go to court because I used it wrong. I don't have to worry about it getting stolen, or crashed into. I don't have to worry about being unable to afford the insurance or registration. I don't have any wealth tied up in it, so its deprecation doesn't matter. Having to walk a few minutes at the start and end of my journey is a small price to pay for such convenience. And if I ever do need one, I can rent one for less than the average American's monthly payment. In fact, I can rent the exact one I need that day, which might be a pickup today but a minivan tomorrow.

watersb 1y ago
> I'll never have to go to court because I used it wrong. Technically, it's possible to be required to go to court, for some value of "used it wrong". Or so I'm told.
kulahan 1y ago
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- hamdingers 1y ago
  You have severe misanthropy you need to work out in therapy. The possibility of encountering elderly people or children on your commute should not invoke this kind of reaction and it's weird that's the first place your mind went. The answer is no, I do not mind people coming and going on the bus because I am a normal human. Not that your example is realistic anyway, I can't think of a time in the last few years any passenger has delayed my bus for 10 minutes (drivers, on the other hand...). FWIW "some mediocre experience every single day" could just as easily describe sitting in traffic. At least on the bus I can play with my phone. You find these arguments convincing because you're starting from "I hate the bus" and working backwards. That's not an honest way to have a conversation.
  - kulahan 1y ago
    Gotta love these armchair psychologists who have no clue what they’re talking about. You made a whole psychological profile because I… came up with an example. Physically painful to have to converse in scenarios like this. The fact that you think “transportation for people who explicitly cannot drive” is not a major draw of public transit, you’re crazy. But of course, when you start from “I love the bus” and work backwards, I guess you weren’t interested in arguing honestly from the beginning, right?
- watwut 1y ago
  I have never seen a bus staying at stop for 10 min for random reason. You are making up inconveniences that dont exist.
  - kulahan 1y ago
    If you’ve never seen it, it just doesn’t exist. My mistake.
    - watwut 1y ago
      It just isnt a thing, really.
      - kulahan 1y ago
        TIL old people don't exist and the problems every bus on the planet faces are actually just fake
  - rsynnott 1y ago
    Dublin is currently making changes to traffic flow to prioritise buses, with the result that some buses now go far faster than they used to. But because everything is in flux, and Dublin Bus hates updating timetables at the best of times, it is now somewhat common for a too-fast bus to stop for a few minutes to get back on schedule (complete with recorded message to that effect). It'll pass, but it is, for now, a thing. (They've tweaked it now, but for a few months the bus I usually use to get from home to the city centre did this on about 30% of journeys.)
- rsynnott 1y ago
  Just looking at Google Maps, if I wanted to get to the city centre right now: - Car: 22 minutes (and, er, park... somewhere? Who knows) - Walk: 42 minutes - Bike: 14 minutes - Bus: 17 minutes (including 3 minutes walk) - Train: 20 minutes (including 10 minutes walk) Buses work in some places. (Granted, this is traffic-dependent and the train would def beat it at rush hour in my particular case, particularly as Google Maps' time for walking is very conservative.) I could fairly handily afford a car, but for my lifestyle, where I like, there just doesn't seem to be any real _point_.
keeda 1y ago
Also: - Not having to perform the repetitive, mind-numbingly-dull-yet-somehow-simultaneously-stressful cognitive task of driving. - Instead, having the freedom to engage in more relaxing, productive or creative pursuits in this era of smartphones; do work, watch videos, read books, sleep, or even just look out the window. - Never having to deal with traffic jams. Or road rage. - Getting a chance to walk places for free instead of paying to do the same thing on a treadmill in a gym.

watersb 1y ago

> I'll never have to go to court because I used it wrong. Technically, it's possible to be required to go to court, for some value of "used it wrong". Or so I'm told.

kulahan 1y ago

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hamdingers 1y ago
You have severe misanthropy you need to work out in therapy. The possibility of encountering elderly people or children on your commute should not invoke this kind of reaction and it's weird that's the first place your mind went. The answer is no, I do not mind people coming and going on the bus because I am a normal human. Not that your example is realistic anyway, I can't think of a time in the last few years any passenger has delayed my bus for 10 minutes (drivers, on the other hand...). FWIW "some mediocre experience every single day" could just as easily describe sitting in traffic. At least on the bus I can play with my phone. You find these arguments convincing because you're starting from "I hate the bus" and working backwards. That's not an honest way to have a conversation.
- kulahan 1y ago
  Gotta love these armchair psychologists who have no clue what they’re talking about. You made a whole psychological profile because I… came up with an example. Physically painful to have to converse in scenarios like this. The fact that you think “transportation for people who explicitly cannot drive” is not a major draw of public transit, you’re crazy. But of course, when you start from “I love the bus” and work backwards, I guess you weren’t interested in arguing honestly from the beginning, right?
watwut 1y ago
I have never seen a bus staying at stop for 10 min for random reason. You are making up inconveniences that dont exist.
- kulahan 1y ago
  If you’ve never seen it, it just doesn’t exist. My mistake.
  - watwut 1y ago
    It just isnt a thing, really.
    - kulahan 1y ago
      TIL old people don't exist and the problems every bus on the planet faces are actually just fake
- rsynnott 1y ago
  Dublin is currently making changes to traffic flow to prioritise buses, with the result that some buses now go far faster than they used to. But because everything is in flux, and Dublin Bus hates updating timetables at the best of times, it is now somewhat common for a too-fast bus to stop for a few minutes to get back on schedule (complete with recorded message to that effect). It'll pass, but it is, for now, a thing. (They've tweaked it now, but for a few months the bus I usually use to get from home to the city centre did this on about 30% of journeys.)
rsynnott 1y ago
Just looking at Google Maps, if I wanted to get to the city centre right now: - Car: 22 minutes (and, er, park... somewhere? Who knows) - Walk: 42 minutes - Bike: 14 minutes - Bus: 17 minutes (including 3 minutes walk) - Train: 20 minutes (including 10 minutes walk) Buses work in some places. (Granted, this is traffic-dependent and the train would def beat it at rush hour in my particular case, particularly as Google Maps' time for walking is very conservative.) I could fairly handily afford a car, but for my lifestyle, where I like, there just doesn't seem to be any real _point_.

keeda 1y ago

Also: - Not having to perform the repetitive, mind-numbingly-dull-yet-somehow-simultaneously-stressful cognitive task of driving. - Instead, having the freedom to engage in more relaxing, productive or creative pursuits in this era of smartphones; do work, watch videos, read books, sleep, or even just look out the window. - Never having to deal with traffic jams. Or road rage. - Getting a chance to walk places for free instead of paying to do the same thing on a treadmill in a gym.