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Tegmark has used actual, you know, numbers and stuff to show that quantum effects in the brain are pretty implausible. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11088215

Tegmark has used actual, you know, numbers and stuff to show that quantum effects in the brain are pretty implausible. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11088215/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11088215/

westurner 1y ago
Again there, does the EMF/RF field created by the electrovolt wave function of the brain affect the electrovolt wave function of the brain? If so, isn't that a feed-forward feedback loop (where there may be quantum behavior)? Does this paper also fail to assess other fields relevant to understanding nonlocal neuroactivation in disproving that there is any quantumness in cognition? How do humans simulate digital and quantum circuits with the brain? And, why do attempts to localize activations in the brain weeks apart fail; why is there representation drift?
- westurner 1y ago
  Actual evidence of: /? quantum in the brain: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C43&q=quantum+in+the+brain&btnG= https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C43&q=qua... /? quantum cognition: https://www.google.com/search?q=quantum+cognition https://www.google.com/search?q=quantum+cognition gh topic: quantum-cognition: https://github.com/topics/quantum-cognition https://github.com/topics/quantum-cognition (2025: 7 results; all Julia) 2000: the referenced Tegmark paper From https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=related:-mGt9tzYwSUJ:scholar.google.com/&scioq=quantum+in+the+brain&hl=en&as_sdt=0,43 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=related:-mGt9tzYwSUJ:sc... : - 1998: "Quantum computation in brain microtubules? The Penrose–Hameroff 'Orch OR 'model of consciousness" (1998) - 2002: "Quantum computation in brain microtubules: Decoherence and biological feasibility" (2002) Quantum cognition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_cognition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_cognition
- soulofmischief 1y ago
  What behavior precisely do you think is hiding in quantum region? I'm on board with Hofstadter's strange loops but at most, quantum-level interaction should just amount to noise that is stabilized by the higher-order chemical region in which the brain operates. What even are we looking for at this point? What aspect of my experience is not likely to just be a result of chemical interactions in the brain?

westurner 1y ago

Again there, does the EMF/RF field created by the electrovolt wave function of the brain affect the electrovolt wave function of the brain? If so, isn't that a feed-forward feedback loop (where there may be quantum behavior)? Does this paper also fail to assess other fields relevant to understanding nonlocal neuroactivation in disproving that there is any quantumness in cognition? How do humans simulate digital and quantum circuits with the brain? And, why do attempts to localize activations in the brain weeks apart fail; why is there representation drift?

westurner 1y ago
Actual evidence of: /? quantum in the brain: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C43&q=quantum+in+the+brain&btnG= https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C43&q=qua... /? quantum cognition: https://www.google.com/search?q=quantum+cognition https://www.google.com/search?q=quantum+cognition gh topic: quantum-cognition: https://github.com/topics/quantum-cognition https://github.com/topics/quantum-cognition (2025: 7 results; all Julia) 2000: the referenced Tegmark paper From https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=related:-mGt9tzYwSUJ:scholar.google.com/&scioq=quantum+in+the+brain&hl=en&as_sdt=0,43 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=related:-mGt9tzYwSUJ:sc... : - 1998: "Quantum computation in brain microtubules? The Penrose–Hameroff 'Orch OR 'model of consciousness" (1998) - 2002: "Quantum computation in brain microtubules: Decoherence and biological feasibility" (2002) Quantum cognition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_cognition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_cognition
soulofmischief 1y ago
What behavior precisely do you think is hiding in quantum region? I'm on board with Hofstadter's strange loops but at most, quantum-level interaction should just amount to noise that is stabilized by the higher-order chemical region in which the brain operates. What even are we looking for at this point? What aspect of my experience is not likely to just be a result of chemical interactions in the brain?