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This might be slightly off topic, but after the Sora 2/anime controversy I just looked up how much does it cost to make your average anime - it turns out that t

This might be slightly off topic, but after the Sora 2/anime controversy I just looked up how much does it cost to make your average anime - it turns out that top tier 26 ep anime shows like Chainsaw Man, Delicious In Dungeon or box office movies like Demon Slayer cost between $10-$20m to make. Now I don't know how much they spend on Sora 2, but I'd imagine tens of billions. For that money, you could make a thousand such shows. While this post is full of conjecture, and somewhat unrelated to LLMs, but not their economics - I wonder how the insane capex is going to be justified even if AI becomes fully capable of replacing salaried professionals, they'll still end up paying much much more than what it'd have cost to just hire that armies of professionals for decades.

Tiberium 1y ago
> Now I don't know how much they spend on Sora 2, but I'd imagine tens of billions I think it's magnitudes less, actually.
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udkl 1y ago
A consequence of tools like Sora and Google Flow is that there will be an increase in amateurs creating professional quality content for comparatively cheap. So a thousand such shows (probably many more) isn't in the realm of the impossible!
nithril 1y ago
Not off topics at all. That massive investment must be baked by something with a bigger ROI than just a chatbot.
ksynwa 1y ago
Can you even make "shows" with sora 2? I haven't used it but everytime I hear about it it's in the context of making "shorts". Making shows would require a technological leap from that point.
tim333 1y ago
I think that kind of thing is one of the main problems with the 'AI bubble'. It's probably a misallocation of capital, spending billions on energy sucking data centers people don't especially want which leaves less money for things like paying creatives to make anime shows people do want. In properly functioning capitalism entrepreneurs would look at what they can make a profit at due to people paying for it because they want it and invest in that but the hype wave seems to be causing an over allocation to heavily loss making activities. And I say that as a believer that AGI is on the way but that it will come from smart computer folk designing better systems, not from more gigawatts of data centers.

Tiberium 1y ago

> Now I don't know how much they spend on Sora 2, but I'd imagine tens of billions I think it's magnitudes less, actually.

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udkl 1y ago

A consequence of tools like Sora and Google Flow is that there will be an increase in amateurs creating professional quality content for comparatively cheap. So a thousand such shows (probably many more) isn't in the realm of the impossible!

nithril 1y ago

Not off topics at all. That massive investment must be baked by something with a bigger ROI than just a chatbot.

ksynwa 1y ago

Can you even make "shows" with sora 2? I haven't used it but everytime I hear about it it's in the context of making "shorts". Making shows would require a technological leap from that point.

tim333 1y ago

I think that kind of thing is one of the main problems with the 'AI bubble'. It's probably a misallocation of capital, spending billions on energy sucking data centers people don't especially want which leaves less money for things like paying creatives to make anime shows people do want. In properly functioning capitalism entrepreneurs would look at what they can make a profit at due to people paying for it because they want it and invest in that but the hype wave seems to be causing an over allocation to heavily loss making activities. And I say that as a believer that AGI is on the way but that it will come from smart computer folk designing better systems, not from more gigawatts of data centers.