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Do not accept terms and conditions
- vivzkestrel 1y agoSomeone went to sleep after a long day of work and the heroku servers crashed, this is why you need monitoring and alerts people
- zahlman 1y ago> You need to enable JavaScript to play. I didn't enable JavaScript. Does that mean I win?
- brudgers 1y agoYes. You won the whole internet.
- technothrasher 1y agoWOPR would be proud.
- frenchmajesty 1y agoI get a Heroku error trying to view the site.
- gowld 1y agoAccording to its terms and conditions, Heroku is not Web Scale.
- SCUSKU 1y agoHave they tried MongoDB?
- johnsillings 1y agosame
- eric-p7 1y agoThat means you won the game.
- purplelemons 1y agodamn, I just lost The Game.
- mrheosuper 1y agoThanks for ruining my 5-year streak.
- RhysU 1y agoThe Sequel: Decline e-Delivery.
- ratelimitsteve 1y agoT&C 3: Block Notifications
- DeepYogurt 1y agoDamn. I lost it.
- JKCalhoun 1y agoYep, I just lost the game as well.
- ratelimitsteve 1y agoHN hug of death?
- isoprophlex 1y agoTheir heroku setup is having a moment. But if this is about the game I've been playing with my rude ass car that started nagging me about Kia's t&c update, weeks after i first got it, every time i start the engine... I'm not sure if I'm winning and I'm not sure if the game is fun anymore. at least the car and I have been playing a single game of me declining the t&c and please ask me again later for some three years and a few months now. So the replay value is high. Also sometimes my wife pretends to go for the "accept" button and it makes me all hot and bothered
- fainpul 1y agoThis game seems to be all the rage right now. I've seen clones of it everywhere.
- Etheryte 1y agoIf you're in Europe, then most new cars do that right now. There was an EU-wide court case some time ago whether tracking consent can be one-and-done in a car or not because different people can be driving a car at different times, if memory serves well. Rather than simply drop the tracking, the car manufacturers decided to just nag you every time. This is now the first thing on my list when looking for a new car, if they do stuff like that I'm not buying.
- twelvedogs 1y agoI backed into my garage wall after being distracted by one of those things, now I just leave it up
- agile-gift0262 1y agoMy Toyota also got that game in a DLC about a year after I bought it
- isoprophlex 1y agoMozilla did an expose a while back on what's hidden in those terms, IIRC. Things like "we want to know do you use the heated seats" (okay... useful free market research maybe) but also "we store personality profiles including your sexual preferences" Somewhere I hope a PM is deliberating the intricacies of automotive teledildonics. I hope.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 1y agoBroken for me, but going off of the headline, I have been playing the same game with Apple Health. Refuse to accept what probably gives them some wiggle room to monetize my health information. Which also means that I cannot setup a wake up alarm, only generic alarms.
- arkadiyt 1y agoApple Health data is end-to-end encrypted, even without using ADP. They don't have access to it: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102651 https://support.apple.com/en-us/102651
- 0cf8612b2e1e 1y agoThat is cute, but if big tech goes out of its way to get specific permissions to do something, I am going to assume it is not in my best interests. Sure, Apple is less bad than many others, but that does not mean they are trustworthy.
- midtake 1y agoI assumed it was to update your sleep stats in health.
- geminiboy 1y agoShameless Plug I created this web application to review the terms and conditions of website and show an LLM surface the ugly parts of the TOS. tosreview.org/ Shoutout: this was inspired by the amazing humans at tosdr.org
- coffeecoders 1y agoYour site gives me ssl error.
- chathaway123 1y agoJust wanted to say thank you. It prompted a review of our own T&Cs.
- RealCodingOtaku 1y agoIt hallucinates on sites that have simple terms that say we don't collect anything or has minimal collections like IP navigation history to check bad actors which are auto removed. I would assume that if it can't handle understanding two paragraphs, it's worthless to be run on a 30+ page TOS.
- geminiboy 1y agoCan you give me an example Terms of service link on which it failed
- topkai22 1y agoFor mandatory T&Cs I'll put in the signature box "Decline", including updating the HTML page to say "decline" instead of "OK" and screenshotting it or modifying the HTTP response sent back to include riders. I know it probably won't matter, but it's kind of fun for me.
- odie5533 1y agoNo chance that would hold up in court. Clickwraps have been tested in courts and are fully enforceable.
- wat10000 1y agoAnd keep in mind that (at least in the US) the opposite of "I accept the terms and conditions" is not "I get to do whatever I want," it's "I am accessing this service without authorization, which is a crime under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act."
- NoMoreNicksLeft 1y agoIf I'm on the jury, I'll make sure he walks. The only valid agreements require the party seeking the agreement to make efforts in that pursuit. Did a human view the signed agreement afterward? Do they store that signed agreement in such a way as to be able to retrieve it if they need to contest the terms later? Then no agreement was made. And as for the CFAA provisions, if they put those resources on the public internet, then the public has the right to interact with them. You can't fence off the sidewalk and claim that someone trespasses when they walk on it.
- pbasista 1y ago> You can't fence off the sidewalk and claim that someone trespasses when they walk on it. Perhaps a better analogy would be: If you go out into a public space, you have to accept that by doing so you lose a certain portion of your privacy. You cannot expect that other people will agree to your "terms and conditions" before being allowed to talk to you. They will just talk to you if they so like.
- paulddraper 1y ago> An error occurred in the application and your page could not be served. If you are the application owner, check your logs for details. You can do this from the Heroku CLI with the command heroku logs --tail
- lazycouchpotato 1y agoSite's borked, but for those that were able to access it, is it like Ente's https://consent.gg/ https://consent.gg/ ?
- fph 1y agoNote to everyone: disable your adblocker when visiting that website, or you'll see only an empty page with a countdown.
- dylan604 1y agowhat happens at the end of the countdown?
- slickytail 1y agoThe site has a little game where you click to dismiss as many cookie-consent popups as possible, in 30 seconds. I suppose if you can't see the cookie consent popups, then at the end of the timer you just have zero points.
- Ylpertnodi 1y ago> disable your adblocker when visiting that website, or you'll see only an empty page with a countdown. Thanks for the heads-up. Will not visit site.
- vintermann 1y agoThe app is erroring out for me, but I have a suspicion it's a "Neal-like"?
- diogolsq 1y agoSame here, I was able to find it in internet archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20250625181250/https://www.termsandconditions.game/ https://web.archive.org/web/20250625181250/https://www.terms... it takes a good 5-10 minutes to boot up
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- Sontho 1y agoIt's not working. Shows an error.
- G_o_D 1y agoi don't understand people believe it whether you accept or deny, does it matter if i had to log i will its not my site will have to pass all test about malpractice before being publish, or on everyday basis Those prompt are not real prompts from browser permission system itself that if you deny will prevent site from accesing any data those are dummy
- BlackFly 1y agoThe world should just follow the Dutch and stop pretending like explicit consent occurs or matters for standard terms and conditions: http://www.dutchcivillaw.com/civilcodebook066.htm http://www.dutchcivillaw.com/civilcodebook066.htm As long as you had the opportunity to read them, you and the company are bound by them even if it is clear you never read them. Surprising terms and conditions are always voidable. There is a whole large list of voidable stipulations. I prefer Canadian law (this differs by province) where voidable stipulations invalidate the contract to a standard contract on the other hand.
- hakfoo 1y agoWhy not go further? There should be a master book of civil contracts that can be filled out in a "Mad Libs" sort of way, but nothing else is legally enforcable. Every sales contract or employment term is the same with only narrow, permitted variations. This could streamline the legal system because it turns potentially infinite contract designs into a much more constrained problem space. You'd quickly build enough precedent that even lay people could understand the mechanism. Trying to add a new term would require revising the master book, which would be a very public and political process that would likely shame the instigator (just why are you so desperate to force arbitration?) The whole "contracts are a voluntary, negotiated, meeting of the minds" perspective feels quaint and 1700s, from an era before billion-dollar companies, and even before formal law schools. Negotiations are rarely between equal parties on a level footing these days.
- BlackFly 1y agoI too often idealize that. The problem as I see it, when people start offering novel services it is hard to have a ready made contract for that. Hence the idea of reasonability and voidability that so many people have forgotten. If the term is clearly unbalanced in favor of the controlling party (ability to terminate the contract at any time without penalty while the contractee faces a penalty for early termination) without some specific consideration for this imbalance. These general reasonability notions need to be enforced more agressively. Instead, too many people think that anything goes once you signed the contract, but at the extreme end of this, slavery is clearly illegal. So there is clearly a line where you cannot agree to unreasonable things, but people forget that. So I think these reasonability clauses were our attempt to capture novel contracts, but they have lost their teeth in the minds of people and in our legal systems. Then I start to entertain the enumerated contracts approach again...
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