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Depends on the definition, I might take that bet because under some definitions were already here. Example: better than average human across many thinking task
by asah 1y ago
Depends on the definition, I might take that bet because under some definitions were already here.
Example: better than average human across many thinking tasks is done.
- rootusrootus 1y agoI think that the definition needs to include something about performance on out-of-training tasks. Otherwise we're just talking about machine learning, not anything like AGI.
- balder1991 1y agoYes, like stated in this video: https://youtu.be/COOAssGkF6I https://youtu.be/COOAssGkF6I
- Yizahi 1y agoCalculator can do arithmetic better than a human. Does this mean we have so called AI for half a century now?
- xboxnolifes 1y agoA calculator does 1 thinking task.
- Yizahi 1y agoFirst of all, it's zero thinking tasks, calculators can't think. But let's call it that way for the sake of an argument. LLM can do less than a dozen thinking tasks, and I'm generous here. Generating text, generating still images, generating digital music, generating video, and generate computer code. That's about it. Is that a complete and exhaustive list of all what constitutes a human? Or at least a human mind? If some piece of silicon can do 5-6 tasks it is a human equivalent now? (AI aka AGI presumes human mind parity)
- KeplerBoy 1y agoThat's how the term was sometimes used before. Think of video games AIs, those weren't (and still aren't) especially clever, but they were called AIs and nobody batted an eye at that.
- Yizahi 1y agoWhen I write AI I mean what LLM apologists mean by AGI. So to rephrase I was talking about so called AGI 50 years ago in a calculator. I don't like this recent term inflation.
- CamperBob2 1y agoLet's get an English major to take a calculator to the International Math Olympiad, and see how that goes.
- Yizahi 1y agoSo a sign of AGI or intelligence on par with human is the ability to solve small generic math problems? And it still requires a handler human level intellinge to be paired with, to even start solving those math problems? Is that about right?
- CamperBob2 1y agoNot even close to right. First of all, the "small generic math problems" given at IMO are designed to challenge the strongest students in the world, and second, the recent results have been based on zero-shot prompts. The human operator did nothing but type in the questions and hit Enter. If you do not understand the core concepts very well, by any rational definition of "understand," then you will not succeed at competitions like IMO. A calculator alone won't help you with math at this level, any more than a scalpel by itself would help you succeed at brain surgery.
- rhetocj23 1y agoIt may be difficult for you to believe or digest, but this means nothing for actual innovation. Im yet to see the effects of LLMs send a shockwave in the real economy. Ive actually hung around Olympiad level folks and unfortunately, their reach of intellect was limited in specific ways that didnt mean anything in regards to the real economy.
- CamperBob2 1y agoYou seem to be arguing with someone who isn't here. My point is that if you think a calculator is going to help you do math you don't understand, you are going to have a really tough time once you get to 10th grade.
- sambapa 1y agoGood ol' Turing Test, but the real one, not the pop-sci one.