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I'm sure it's a total coincidence that Shopify (on whose board DHH sits) coincidentally became an active participant on toppling the maintainers soon after they

I'm sure it's a total coincidence that Shopify (on whose board DHH sits) coincidentally became an active participant on toppling the maintainers soon after they criticized DHH. Given the power dynamics, the burden of proof is on Shopify to proove it wasn't retaliating at the behest of, or in a misguided attempt to defend DHH's honor.

runjake 1y ago
What you believe and what you can document are two separate things. Per the concept of "innocent until proven guilty", there is no burden on Shopify to prove they didn't do what you believe. The burden is on you to provide evidence for the motivations behind their actions. I personally doubt Tobi got Shopify to where it was by making rash decisions based on emotions and drama.
- basisword 1y ago
  Hacker News isn’t a court. Nobody has to provide evidence for any opinion they share.
  - runjake 1y ago
    They should provide evidence when they are leveling accusations against others. That's how a reasonable society works.
- overfeed 1y ago
  Not only does one have to do the right thing, one has to be seen doing the right thing, because actual malfeasance and the appearance of malfeasance are indistinguishable on the outside. Though I wouldn't be surprised if Tobi/Shopify doesn't care for what the little people think, so this rule-of-thumb may not apply. Your second para is appeal to authority. A former CEO of mine (not a billionaire though, but a mere centimillionaire) was a drama magnet, thin-skinned, and a vengeful little shit.
andrewmutz 1y ago
> Given the power dynamics, the burden of proof is on Shopify to prooave it wasn't retaliating at the behest of, or in a misguided attempt to defend DHH's honor. That’s just a way of saying “I don’t have any evidence of what I’m claiming”
- ModernMech 1y ago
  It's more like saying "I wasn't born yesterday"

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I'm sure it's a total coincidence that Shopify (on whose board DHH sits) coincidentally became an active participant on toppling the maintainers soon after they

by overfeed 1y ago

runjake 1y ago
What you believe and what you can document are two separate things. Per the concept of "innocent until proven guilty", there is no burden on Shopify to prove they didn't do what you believe. The burden is on you to provide evidence for the motivations behind their actions. I personally doubt Tobi got Shopify to where it was by making rash decisions based on emotions and drama.
- basisword 1y ago
  Hacker News isn’t a court. Nobody has to provide evidence for any opinion they share.
  - runjake 1y ago
    They should provide evidence when they are leveling accusations against others. That's how a reasonable society works.
- overfeed 1y ago
  Not only does one have to do the right thing, one has to be seen doing the right thing, because actual malfeasance and the appearance of malfeasance are indistinguishable on the outside. Though I wouldn't be surprised if Tobi/Shopify doesn't care for what the little people think, so this rule-of-thumb may not apply. Your second para is appeal to authority. A former CEO of mine (not a billionaire though, but a mere centimillionaire) was a drama magnet, thin-skinned, and a vengeful little shit.
andrewmutz 1y ago
> Given the power dynamics, the burden of proof is on Shopify to prooave it wasn't retaliating at the behest of, or in a misguided attempt to defend DHH's honor. That’s just a way of saying “I don’t have any evidence of what I’m claiming”
- ModernMech 1y ago
  It's more like saying "I wasn't born yesterday"