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This is the logical conclusion to the state of irrational fear that Americans perpetually live in, that causes them to feel they need 24/7 surveillance of their
by femiagbabiaka 1y ago
This is the logical conclusion to the state of irrational fear that Americans perpetually live in, that causes them to feel they need 24/7 surveillance of their homes, no matter the consequences.
- dormento 1y ago"Land of the free". I struggle to reconcile.
- pear01 1y agoA line from George Carlin comes to mind... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-54c0IdxZWc https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-54c0IdxZWc
- troupo 1y agoUnfortunately this is contagious. During the last election cycle in Sweden the Moderate party (third-largest in parliament, and part of the government) literally ran ads like "More cameras on our streets for safety" Edit: added country
- nielsbot 1y agoWe need a competent counter-narrative but no one (few) figures in the federal government are offering one. The media also loves to report on crime. Etc. I hope people will join their local community groups.
- xysix 1y agoIt’s about control, not fear. Nobody is consenting to it out of fear.
- Noaidi 1y agoI disagree. Fear is the tool authoritarians use to control people. First they make you fear the other, then they make you fear their force. When your fear the other the consent is internal.
- pavel_lishin 1y agoDo you mean about the folks with Ring cameras needing to feel control over their environment, and feeling like giving access to the Police/Flock/ICE will help gain that sort of control?
- array_key_first 1y agoYou control people by instilling fear. Anybody can merely force someone else to do something. I can, you can. That's small fry stuff. The real ticket is getting people to do the things you want with no force. Convincing them to act against their own interests. Now, thats much harder, and that's the type of thing the big dogs are looking at.
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- IncreasePosts 1y agoI think most people with video door bells just like being able to answer the door when they aren't at home and to see who is there without getting up from the couch
- femiagbabiaka 1y agoThis program would literally not be possible if that was the case, as it's completely opt-in. Citizen, Flock, Ring, they're all symptoms of the same disease. But let's say you're right: that means that laziness is enough to bring on the surveillance state.
- IncreasePosts 1y agoIt's "opt in by default" - aka opt-out.
- femiagbabiaka 1y agoGetting the notifications is opt-in by default, choosing to hand over your video footage is not: For Ring users, the process is the same. Your privacy and control over your videos and information are non-negotiable, and your participation is completely optional. Public safety agencies can't see who received a notification or who chose not to respond. You can even turn off Community Request notifications altogether if you prefer. By combining community safety with strong privacy protections, Community Requests respects individual choice while helping neighborhoods thrive.
- kylehotchkiss 1y agoVideo door bells are a massive safety feature for people living by themselves.
- pixxel 1y ago[dead]
- kylehotchkiss 1y agoYup! I've had my car stolen and broken into in the past. So I have a rational fear the same thing could happen to my house, so I have a ring system. Out of respect for my neighbors, I'll go the E2EE pathway and make sure my camera isn't tilted towards the road, but I'm not going without cameras again.
- femiagbabiaka 1y agoUnfortunately the advent of the IP camera, or the Citizen app, and decreases in crime, have no correlation. It just makes one feel better, which is fine in the same way that smoking in public is fine.
- buellerbueller 1y agoThe camera will not prevent it.
- t1E9mE7JTRjf 1y agoa basic look at crime statistics can tell you it's not irrational. the US has its high trust society taken some decades ago.