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you want to use more brainpower, hop over to the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and read one of their long articles. In particular they have a great

by frm88 1y ago

you want to use more brainpower, hop over to the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and read one of their long articles. In particular they have a great set of articles on US policy thinking around China right now. It's pretty saddening to read HN commentary on China and compare it to CEIP's readings. Why do you think, an US centric, vaguely leftist think tank focused on US politics with seat in Washington, financed by American donors, initiates the use of brainpower and understanding? More than any other media, that is. There is such a thing as the rest of the world (95% of the world population) who may be more incentivised to ask honest questions on HN than reading yet another U. S. publication that regards them as a remark in the margins, as demonstrated by the CEIP front page https://carnegieendowment.org/?lang=en https://carnegieendowment.org/?lang=en

Karrot_Kream 1y ago
CEIP is just one think tank. There are plenty of others there. I frequently read CEPR [1] for a more EU perspective or JIIA [2] for a more Japanese perspective. I just referenced CEIP because it probably most neatly represents the dominant HN perspective. > Why do you think, an US centric, vaguely leftist think tank focused on US politics with seat in Washington, financed by American donors, initiates the use of brainpower and understanding? Incentives. Do you really think that internet commenters are going to produce better research than folks paid to research things and provide insights to decision makers? Everyone has a bias. Having a bias doesn't stop you from doing deep analysis. The CCP traces its ideological origins from Marx-Leninism and still uses that to develop their policy positions. It's a very different perspective than US policy which traces its philosophy back to the European Enlightenment, but that doesn't mean their analysis is any less rigorous. [1]: https://cepr.org/ https://cepr.org/ [2]: https://www.jiia.or.jp/en/ https://www.jiia.or.jp/en/
- frm88 1y ago
  CEPR is yet another leftist (less vaguely than CEIP) U. S. American think tank with the same attributes as CEIP (donors, location etc.) So, more U. S. centrism with a heavy focus on Vox News. Might just as well read Vox. JIIA is the only one of your examples, covering worldwide topics right there on the front page, even Africa. Promoting research. So far, your selection confirms only one of your statements: bias. Everyone has them. Do you really think, the first two of your choices would engage in"deep analysis" on topics contrary to the political agenda of their donors and hence their incentives? I'll hold that I get more varied opinions and links to sources on HN than from strictly conforming U. S. publications, but thanks for introducing me to JIIA - which, you know, verifies the first part of this sentence. The philosophical roots of states is not on topic here, so I'll skip that.
  - Karrot_Kream 1y ago
    If you think bias disqualifies analysis then you'll probably only be happy reading news that politically agrees with you. If that's your bar, well, social media is for you.

by frm88 1y ago

Karrot_Kream 1y ago

CEIP is just one think tank. There are plenty of others there. I frequently read CEPR [1] for a more EU perspective or JIIA [2] for a more Japanese perspective. I just referenced CEIP because it probably most neatly represents the dominant HN perspective. > Why do you think, an US centric, vaguely leftist think tank focused on US politics with seat in Washington, financed by American donors, initiates the use of brainpower and understanding? Incentives. Do you really think that internet commenters are going to produce better research than folks paid to research things and provide insights to decision makers? Everyone has a bias. Having a bias doesn't stop you from doing deep analysis. The CCP traces its ideological origins from Marx-Leninism and still uses that to develop their policy positions. It's a very different perspective than US policy which traces its philosophy back to the European Enlightenment, but that doesn't mean their analysis is any less rigorous. [1]: https://cepr.org/ https://cepr.org/ [2]: https://www.jiia.or.jp/en/ https://www.jiia.or.jp/en/

frm88 1y ago
CEPR is yet another leftist (less vaguely than CEIP) U. S. American think tank with the same attributes as CEIP (donors, location etc.) So, more U. S. centrism with a heavy focus on Vox News. Might just as well read Vox. JIIA is the only one of your examples, covering worldwide topics right there on the front page, even Africa. Promoting research. So far, your selection confirms only one of your statements: bias. Everyone has them. Do you really think, the first two of your choices would engage in"deep analysis" on topics contrary to the political agenda of their donors and hence their incentives? I'll hold that I get more varied opinions and links to sources on HN than from strictly conforming U. S. publications, but thanks for introducing me to JIIA - which, you know, verifies the first part of this sentence. The philosophical roots of states is not on topic here, so I'll skip that.
- Karrot_Kream 1y ago
  If you think bias disqualifies analysis then you'll probably only be happy reading news that politically agrees with you. If that's your bar, well, social media is for you.