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I love how few comments on this and similar posts give much context along with their advice. Are you hosting a church newsletter in your spare time or a resourc

I love how few comments on this and similar posts give much context along with their advice. Are you hosting a church newsletter in your spare time or a resource intensive web app with millions of paying enterprise customers and a dedicated dev ops team in 3 continents? Any advice on price / performance / availability is meaningless unless you explain where you're coming from. The reason we see people overcomplicating everything to do with the web is that they follow advice from people with radically different requirements.

DarkNova6 1y ago
Tech industry in a nutshell
Terretta 1y ago
Strong agree. I hadn't seen your comment when I wrote this, below: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45616366 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45616366 TL;DR: Think of hosting providers like a pricing grid (DIY, Get Started, Pro, Team, Enterprise) and if YAGNI, don't choose it.
casparvitch 1y ago
IDK mate, my personal pastebin needs to run on bare metal or it can't keep up
Hasz 1y ago
Different requirements, different skillsets, different costs, different challenges. AWS is only topically the same product as Hetzner, coming from someone who has used both quite a bit.
cube00 1y ago
> The reason we see people overcomplicating everything to do with the web is that they follow advice from people with radically different requirements. Or they've had cloud account managers sneaking into your C-suite's lunchtime meetings. Other comments in this thread say they get directives to use AWS from the top. Strangely that directive often comes with AWS's own architects embedded into your team and even more strangely they seem to recommend the most expensive server-less options available. What they don't tell is you you'll be rebuilding and redeploying your containerised app daily with new Docker OS base images to keep up with the security scanners just like patching an OS on a bare metal server.
sergiotapia 1y ago
> a dedicated dev ops team in 3 continents you don't need that in 99.9999% of cases.

DarkNova6 1y ago

Tech industry in a nutshell

Terretta 1y ago

Strong agree. I hadn't seen your comment when I wrote this, below: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45616366 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45616366 TL;DR: Think of hosting providers like a pricing grid (DIY, Get Started, Pro, Team, Enterprise) and if YAGNI, don't choose it.

casparvitch 1y ago

IDK mate, my personal pastebin needs to run on bare metal or it can't keep up

Hasz 1y ago

Different requirements, different skillsets, different costs, different challenges. AWS is only topically the same product as Hetzner, coming from someone who has used both quite a bit.

cube00 1y ago

> The reason we see people overcomplicating everything to do with the web is that they follow advice from people with radically different requirements. Or they've had cloud account managers sneaking into your C-suite's lunchtime meetings. Other comments in this thread say they get directives to use AWS from the top. Strangely that directive often comes with AWS's own architects embedded into your team and even more strangely they seem to recommend the most expensive server-less options available. What they don't tell is you you'll be rebuilding and redeploying your containerised app daily with new Docker OS base images to keep up with the security scanners just like patching an OS on a bare metal server.

sergiotapia 1y ago

> a dedicated dev ops team in 3 continents you don't need that in 99.9999% of cases.