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In reality - I think this will be far worse than that. Why send in an expensive soldiers or a cop when you could just filter in a drone

InsideOutSanta 1y ago
"Just trust us, the people on that boat were definitely smuggling drugs."
- moffkalast 1y ago
  Back in the good old days police had some dedication to their work and some professional integrity. They would at least go through the effort of planting the drugs afterwards...
- hopelite 1y ago
  "Just trust us" ... said the people who constantly instigate conflicts and wars and orchestrate and perpetrate false-flag operations to then claim they had to attack and murder people. What the public does not understand though is that THEIR complicity and facilitation is not only integral, it is even necessary in a "democracy" where a psychological "consent" must be manufactured, not dissimilar to basic grooming tactics. And no, it's no coincidence that all the western leadership and institutions are effectively all various types of groomers, i.e., psychological manipulators and abusers.
- throwway120385 1y ago
  "The guys we blew up with a drone were definitely jihadists."
  - red-iron-pine 1y ago
    some of them were definitely jihadists. but the other half of the wedding party they hit were not...
    - brandonmenc 1y ago
      Next time a jihadist invites you to their wedding... politely decline.
      - mothballed 1y ago
        At one point I volunteered to join an anti-jihadist Syrian militia (YPG) that was backed by the US government. When I returned to the US, they flagged my passport (and interrogated me everytime I crossed a border for about a decade).... thinking I was a jihadist. So yeah consider that the government is so dumb that one half of the government thinks the secular anti-jihadist militias supported by the other half of government are actually jihadists.
        anigbrowl 1y ago
        They don't care about that. They care about the fact that you now have irregular warfare experience. Their morals are wholly situational, so they assume the same is true of everyone else. It's not a terrible assumption; if you study extremist circles for long enough you come across examples of people who completely flip sides because they were only ever in it for the extralegal opportunities. Of course, you can find similar chameleons in politics.
  - IAmBroom 1y ago
    Not any better, nor different, than a missile from a piloted plane, or a guided missile. Yes, the current administration is morally capable of destroying random ships to claim victories over "bad guys". But they always had that ability.
    - Spooky23 1y ago
      No, it’s not. Whataboutism is collaborating. Don’t be that guy. The difference with this administration is that they aren’t even pretending to follow the nominal controls or rules to wield that force. There was a legal concept around the drone/missile/commando/aerial strikes to assassinate targeted individuals in the Middle East. The morality of that action was dubious at best, but what’s happening in the Caribbean doesn’t even meet that very low moral, ethical, or legal bar. This administration, with their craven collaborators on the Supreme Court, is solely focused on asserting virtually unlimited executive power to a fairly obvious end.
    - nonford150 1y ago
      As was the administrations of Clinton and Obama. The real issue is they (whomever is currently in power) can do these things, and there's nothing we can do to stop it from happening.
esafak 1y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=901lYbPmqu4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=901lYbPmqu4
grafmax 1y ago
Yikes. Talk about imperial boomerang.

InsideOutSanta 1y ago

"Just trust us, the people on that boat were definitely smuggling drugs."

moffkalast 1y ago
Back in the good old days police had some dedication to their work and some professional integrity. They would at least go through the effort of planting the drugs afterwards...
hopelite 1y ago
"Just trust us" ... said the people who constantly instigate conflicts and wars and orchestrate and perpetrate false-flag operations to then claim they had to attack and murder people. What the public does not understand though is that THEIR complicity and facilitation is not only integral, it is even necessary in a "democracy" where a psychological "consent" must be manufactured, not dissimilar to basic grooming tactics. And no, it's no coincidence that all the western leadership and institutions are effectively all various types of groomers, i.e., psychological manipulators and abusers.
throwway120385 1y ago
"The guys we blew up with a drone were definitely jihadists."
- red-iron-pine 1y ago
  some of them were definitely jihadists. but the other half of the wedding party they hit were not...
  - brandonmenc 1y ago
    Next time a jihadist invites you to their wedding... politely decline.
    - mothballed 1y ago
      At one point I volunteered to join an anti-jihadist Syrian militia (YPG) that was backed by the US government. When I returned to the US, they flagged my passport (and interrogated me everytime I crossed a border for about a decade).... thinking I was a jihadist. So yeah consider that the government is so dumb that one half of the government thinks the secular anti-jihadist militias supported by the other half of government are actually jihadists.
      - anigbrowl 1y ago
        They don't care about that. They care about the fact that you now have irregular warfare experience. Their morals are wholly situational, so they assume the same is true of everyone else. It's not a terrible assumption; if you study extremist circles for long enough you come across examples of people who completely flip sides because they were only ever in it for the extralegal opportunities. Of course, you can find similar chameleons in politics.
- IAmBroom 1y ago
  Not any better, nor different, than a missile from a piloted plane, or a guided missile. Yes, the current administration is morally capable of destroying random ships to claim victories over "bad guys". But they always had that ability.
  - Spooky23 1y ago
    No, it’s not. Whataboutism is collaborating. Don’t be that guy. The difference with this administration is that they aren’t even pretending to follow the nominal controls or rules to wield that force. There was a legal concept around the drone/missile/commando/aerial strikes to assassinate targeted individuals in the Middle East. The morality of that action was dubious at best, but what’s happening in the Caribbean doesn’t even meet that very low moral, ethical, or legal bar. This administration, with their craven collaborators on the Supreme Court, is solely focused on asserting virtually unlimited executive power to a fairly obvious end.
  - nonford150 1y ago
    As was the administrations of Clinton and Obama. The real issue is they (whomever is currently in power) can do these things, and there's nothing we can do to stop it from happening.

esafak 1y ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=901lYbPmqu4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=901lYbPmqu4

grafmax 1y ago

Yikes. Talk about imperial boomerang.