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CaptainOfCoit 1y ago
Less biased view of "Hetzner on HN": https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=Hetzner%20date%3C1760695221&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... (skipping all comments from this submission) In the end, Hetzner is a provider of "cheap but not 100% uptime" infrastructure, probably why it's so cheap in the first place. As every other provider, if you want 100% uptime (or getting close to it), you really need at least N+1 instances of everything, as every hosting provider end up fucking something up, sooner or later.
- croes 1y ago
  Can you name a provider with 100% uptime? Or is it 100%¹?
  - CaptainOfCoit 1y ago
    No, which is why I wrote "As every other provider, if you want 100% uptime ..."
  - master_crab 1y ago
    No one provides 100% uptime for core compute. That’s their point. Also, good luck extracting anything out of those companies that offer 99.99% and don’t meet it. Sure they’ll throw you some service credits. But it’ll always be magnitudes less than the cost of their disruption to you.
- esskay 1y ago
  You make it sound like they are in some way less reliable or you've got more downtime - neither of which is true. You've got just as much chance of having downtime there as you have with any other provider.
  - CaptainOfCoit 1y ago
    Yeah, that's not true in my experience, and I'm a very happy Hetzner customer and been using them for years, they are a step below in reliability, no matter how much I love them it's hard not to see that. I've used Vultr for about the same amount of time, and I never got an email that some network switch had a hardware failure and it'll take a couple of hours to restore connectivity, but I've had that happen with Hetzner more than once, in the same time-span. And again, I say this as a Hetzner-lover, and someone who prefers Hetzner over Vultry any day of the week.

Less biased view of "Hetzner on HN": https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=Hetzner%20date%3C1760695221&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... (skipping all comments from this submission) In the end, Hetzner is a provider of "cheap but not 100% uptime" infrastructure, probably why it's so cheap in the first place. As every other provider, if you want 100% uptime (or getting close to it), you really need at least N+1 instances of everything, as every hosting provider end up fucking something up, sooner or later.

croes 1y ago
Can you name a provider with 100% uptime? Or is it 100%¹?
- CaptainOfCoit 1y ago
  No, which is why I wrote "As every other provider, if you want 100% uptime ..."
- master_crab 1y ago
  No one provides 100% uptime for core compute. That’s their point. Also, good luck extracting anything out of those companies that offer 99.99% and don’t meet it. Sure they’ll throw you some service credits. But it’ll always be magnitudes less than the cost of their disruption to you.
esskay 1y ago
You make it sound like they are in some way less reliable or you've got more downtime - neither of which is true. You've got just as much chance of having downtime there as you have with any other provider.
- CaptainOfCoit 1y ago
  Yeah, that's not true in my experience, and I'm a very happy Hetzner customer and been using them for years, they are a step below in reliability, no matter how much I love them it's hard not to see that. I've used Vultr for about the same amount of time, and I never got an email that some network switch had a hardware failure and it'll take a couple of hours to restore connectivity, but I've had that happen with Hetzner more than once, in the same time-span. And again, I say this as a Hetzner-lover, and someone who prefers Hetzner over Vultry any day of the week.