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I bought a 4chan pass today just to support the effort. If there's ever a hornets nest you don't want to fuck with it's 4chan and i can't imagine a better pokin

I bought a 4chan pass today just to support the effort. If there's ever a hornets nest you don't want to fuck with it's 4chan and i can't imagine a better poking stick than ofcom.

4ggr0 1y ago
the rasion d'etre of 4chan can probably be discussed forever, but i can't imagine donating money to such a vile, hate-filled platform. surely there are better causes fighting for the same things, right? i know, freedom of speech, it's your money and not mine, etc.
- janwl 1y ago
  One man’s hate is another man’s love.
- tronicjester 1y ago
  Whose hate filled platform? Is there proof mods push general threads or curate content? If the "hate" is legit perspectives from the populous then its important. Reddit is highly curated and far more echoey than 4chan. Never seen pro-Jesus/Islam threads on main page of Reddit. 4chan has them all the time on multiple boards.
  - 4ggr0 1y ago
    > Is there proof mods push general threads or curate content? how does this relate to what i said? i get the "we're a free platform where everyone can do everything and no one is responsible for anything", just a cheap excuse from my POV considering the unhinged, doxxy culture on there. sure, there are cute boards, nice. i am talking about the inhumane, unhinged slurry of shit. "Sure my neighbour has a couple of cadavres in his cellar, but have you seen the pretty flowers on his balcony?" but per usual you can't criticize 4chan in the slightest without its warriors appearing to defend it. i get it. 4chan did and does cool stuff. it also does absolutely disgusting things, surprisingly this always gets dismissed as 'it's only the couple of rogue boards which are crazy'.
    - IlikeKitties 1y ago
      To say 4chan isn't a cesspit of racism, mysogony, anti-semitism and disgusting content would be a lie. But the same is true for twitter and people buy their blue checkmarks there all the time.
      - 4ggr0 1y ago
        > the same is true for twitter i agree :) > people buy their blue checkmarks there all the time sadly, yes.
        whimsicalism 1y ago
        weird how all the despicable awful platforms are simply the ones with the least amount of editorial oversight from on high
        JokerDan 1y ago
        Not sure on this one, Reddit is arguably the worst place on the internet and has a lot of oversight, is heavily curated. Part of the reason it is so bad in fact. The pendulum just swings the other way compared to X and 4chan.
        4ggr0 1y ago
        > Reddit is arguably the worst place on the internet as someone who left reddit so long ago that they don't remember it and really does not care about it, please tell me what's worse on reddit than the constant xenophobic, transphobic and general *phobic stuff on 4chan. phobic does not even do it justice, as it just straight up advocates for whole races or genders to kill themselves (b-b-b-but, i-i-it's just a joke, kawaii).
        throwaway48476 1y ago
        In the 3rd world twitter rage baiting is now a career.
  - thomassmith65 1y ago
    'Hate!? on 4chan!? That's absurd!' /s
  - miladyincontrol 1y ago
    I think the general curation by some mods is less pushing some agenda, more just enabling the shitposters they're friends with at the cost of genuine discussion. Least thats what happened with a scene I'm rather involved in, the threads in recent years became nothing but a cesspool of negativity and most people knew who was behind the constant drama. What people didnt expect was the leak revealed one of the mods was among the group constantly causing it.
- IlikeKitties 1y ago
  4chan isn't all /b/ and /pol/. /g/ the technology board can be a very interesting place. And its Members often create technology that absolutely suprises me. Just recently we started an effort to retake the usenet and are actively repopulating alt.cyberpunk.tech with genuine good discussions.
  - 4ggr0 1y ago
    > 4chan isn't all /b/ and /pol/ maybe this is my bias, could very well be. maybe i should give it a 10th chance and browse the more useful boards. i guess /g/ would be a start, do you have other recommendations? i mean i'm open to change my mind. for me 4chan stands for alt-right pipelines, spreading far-right ideology online etc., so i just really have a sour taste in my mouth when thinking about it.
    - IlikeKitties 1y ago
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    - Arnavion 1y ago
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    - tokai 1y ago
      /pol/ was a containment board for Stormfront users. The site is super pluralistic. But don't force yourself to go to a place you don't want to go.
      - krapp 1y ago
        There's no such thing as a "containment board." Nothing actually gets contained.
        IlikeKitties 1y ago
        They're correct though, that was /pol/s origin story. That Containment worked roughly as well as the one in Chernobyl though.
- BergAndCo 1y ago
  why do so many people think 4chan is the same site it was 10 years ago? modern 4chan is just another reddit.
  - miladyincontrol 1y ago
    I agree on some notions, theres little original content or discussion, theres little creativity. Most threads still get plagued by a circlejerk of wannabe neonazis repeating shibboleths and transphobia at each other ad infinitum, or if you're lucky enough you find a crumb of quality discussion, often generals, often around derivative content from other platforms or popular media. There are the rare productive generals that do have people curating information in meaningful ways, or even rarer actually doing things themselves. Far more often generals are just toxic loosely held together "friend" circles who cant get along anywhere else due to a perpetual veil of irony that can only survive in anonymous spaces, often attacking each other for little more than to stir the pot and keep conversation going. They'll still hold a superiority complex over their use of the site even though every single bad thing they'll say about others can be said for 4chan times 10. Its not 2006 anymore, 4chan isnt a creator of internet culture, 4chan is a dumpster of the web, where art goes to die.
Bender 1y ago
If there's ever a hornets nest you don't want to fuck with it's 4chan That certainly used to be the case pre-2012. All the former hactivists have long since left. marriage, kids, real life, etc... Now it's mostly handfuls of edgy boys on cell phones in school and 4chan-GPT creating and responding to threads. I wish I were wrong. The site went mostly dead for about two weeks when USAID was defunded and had to shift funding sources then all the usual re-re-re-re-re-posted topics in /g/ returned. Some of them are on this site too ... inb4 they reply. Adding to this now the general public have the real names, IP addresses and locations of all the moderators so they are less likely to participate in doxxing. There was a quote, "4chan is where smart people go to act stupid, facebook/reddit is where stupid people go to act smart". That probably needs to be updated.
- tokai 1y ago
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- whimsicalism 1y ago
  idk, 4chan still can have the highest quality of technical conversation (at least on ML) outside of twitter/X —- and yes, that’s including HN. it’s where the llama & mistral weights were leaked
  - Bender 1y ago
    Yeah don't get me wrong, once in a while something interesting is posted. Any time something is said in corporate media to be leaked that is the first ClearWeb site I check to see if someone has posted to a paste/git site.
- mmooss 1y ago
  4chan was funded by USAID? Is this an in-joke?
  - Bender 1y ago
    4chan was funded by USAID? Is this an in-joke? I never said that. USAID manipulate narratives on all popular multimedia and social media sites. Anyone may post on 4chan and anyone with a 4chan-pass may use proxies and VPN's.

I bought a 4chan pass today just to support the effort. If there's ever a hornets nest you don't want to fuck with it's 4chan and i can't imagine a better poking stick than ofcom.

4ggr0 1y ago

the rasion d'etre of 4chan can probably be discussed forever, but i can't imagine donating money to such a vile, hate-filled platform. surely there are better causes fighting for the same things, right? i know, freedom of speech, it's your money and not mine, etc.

janwl 1y ago
One man’s hate is another man’s love.
tronicjester 1y ago
Whose hate filled platform? Is there proof mods push general threads or curate content? If the "hate" is legit perspectives from the populous then its important. Reddit is highly curated and far more echoey than 4chan. Never seen pro-Jesus/Islam threads on main page of Reddit. 4chan has them all the time on multiple boards.
- 4ggr0 1y ago
  > Is there proof mods push general threads or curate content? how does this relate to what i said? i get the "we're a free platform where everyone can do everything and no one is responsible for anything", just a cheap excuse from my POV considering the unhinged, doxxy culture on there. sure, there are cute boards, nice. i am talking about the inhumane, unhinged slurry of shit. "Sure my neighbour has a couple of cadavres in his cellar, but have you seen the pretty flowers on his balcony?" but per usual you can't criticize 4chan in the slightest without its warriors appearing to defend it. i get it. 4chan did and does cool stuff. it also does absolutely disgusting things, surprisingly this always gets dismissed as 'it's only the couple of rogue boards which are crazy'.
  - IlikeKitties 1y ago
    To say 4chan isn't a cesspit of racism, mysogony, anti-semitism and disgusting content would be a lie. But the same is true for twitter and people buy their blue checkmarks there all the time.
    - 4ggr0 1y ago
      > the same is true for twitter i agree :) > people buy their blue checkmarks there all the time sadly, yes.
      - whimsicalism 1y ago
        weird how all the despicable awful platforms are simply the ones with the least amount of editorial oversight from on high
        JokerDan 1y ago
        Not sure on this one, Reddit is arguably the worst place on the internet and has a lot of oversight, is heavily curated. Part of the reason it is so bad in fact. The pendulum just swings the other way compared to X and 4chan.
        4ggr0 1y ago
        > Reddit is arguably the worst place on the internet as someone who left reddit so long ago that they don't remember it and really does not care about it, please tell me what's worse on reddit than the constant xenophobic, transphobic and general *phobic stuff on 4chan. phobic does not even do it justice, as it just straight up advocates for whole races or genders to kill themselves (b-b-b-but, i-i-it's just a joke, kawaii).
      - throwaway48476 1y ago
        In the 3rd world twitter rage baiting is now a career.
- thomassmith65 1y ago
  'Hate!? on 4chan!? That's absurd!' /s
- miladyincontrol 1y ago
  I think the general curation by some mods is less pushing some agenda, more just enabling the shitposters they're friends with at the cost of genuine discussion. Least thats what happened with a scene I'm rather involved in, the threads in recent years became nothing but a cesspool of negativity and most people knew who was behind the constant drama. What people didnt expect was the leak revealed one of the mods was among the group constantly causing it.
IlikeKitties 1y ago
4chan isn't all /b/ and /pol/. /g/ the technology board can be a very interesting place. And its Members often create technology that absolutely suprises me. Just recently we started an effort to retake the usenet and are actively repopulating alt.cyberpunk.tech with genuine good discussions.
- 4ggr0 1y ago
  > 4chan isn't all /b/ and /pol/ maybe this is my bias, could very well be. maybe i should give it a 10th chance and browse the more useful boards. i guess /g/ would be a start, do you have other recommendations? i mean i'm open to change my mind. for me 4chan stands for alt-right pipelines, spreading far-right ideology online etc., so i just really have a sour taste in my mouth when thinking about it.
  - IlikeKitties 1y ago
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  - Arnavion 1y ago
    [dead]
  - tokai 1y ago
    /pol/ was a containment board for Stormfront users. The site is super pluralistic. But don't force yourself to go to a place you don't want to go.
    - krapp 1y ago
      There's no such thing as a "containment board." Nothing actually gets contained.
      - IlikeKitties 1y ago
        They're correct though, that was /pol/s origin story. That Containment worked roughly as well as the one in Chernobyl though.
BergAndCo 1y ago
why do so many people think 4chan is the same site it was 10 years ago? modern 4chan is just another reddit.
- miladyincontrol 1y ago
  I agree on some notions, theres little original content or discussion, theres little creativity. Most threads still get plagued by a circlejerk of wannabe neonazis repeating shibboleths and transphobia at each other ad infinitum, or if you're lucky enough you find a crumb of quality discussion, often generals, often around derivative content from other platforms or popular media. There are the rare productive generals that do have people curating information in meaningful ways, or even rarer actually doing things themselves. Far more often generals are just toxic loosely held together "friend" circles who cant get along anywhere else due to a perpetual veil of irony that can only survive in anonymous spaces, often attacking each other for little more than to stir the pot and keep conversation going. They'll still hold a superiority complex over their use of the site even though every single bad thing they'll say about others can be said for 4chan times 10. Its not 2006 anymore, 4chan isnt a creator of internet culture, 4chan is a dumpster of the web, where art goes to die.

Bender 1y ago

If there's ever a hornets nest you don't want to fuck with it's 4chan That certainly used to be the case pre-2012. All the former hactivists have long since left. marriage, kids, real life, etc... Now it's mostly handfuls of edgy boys on cell phones in school and 4chan-GPT creating and responding to threads. I wish I were wrong. The site went mostly dead for about two weeks when USAID was defunded and had to shift funding sources then all the usual re-re-re-re-re-posted topics in /g/ returned. Some of them are on this site too ... inb4 they reply. Adding to this now the general public have the real names, IP addresses and locations of all the moderators so they are less likely to participate in doxxing. There was a quote, "4chan is where smart people go to act stupid, facebook/reddit is where stupid people go to act smart". That probably needs to be updated.

tokai 1y ago
[flagged]
whimsicalism 1y ago
idk, 4chan still can have the highest quality of technical conversation (at least on ML) outside of twitter/X —- and yes, that’s including HN. it’s where the llama & mistral weights were leaked
- Bender 1y ago
  Yeah don't get me wrong, once in a while something interesting is posted. Any time something is said in corporate media to be leaked that is the first ClearWeb site I check to see if someone has posted to a paste/git site.
mmooss 1y ago
4chan was funded by USAID? Is this an in-joke?
- Bender 1y ago
  4chan was funded by USAID? Is this an in-joke? I never said that. USAID manipulate narratives on all popular multimedia and social media sites. Anyone may post on 4chan and anyone with a 4chan-pass may use proxies and VPN's.