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These feeders are part of a stray cat control program in China, aiming to both feed & neuter stray cat populations there. There have been some distasteful inci
by omcnoe 1y ago
These feeders are part of a stray cat control program in China, aiming to both feed & neuter stray cat populations there.
There have been some distasteful incidents of online groups organizing to try and harm/kill specific cats famous through this feeder program. China lacks animal welfare laws to protect these cats, it's not a crime. So people have taken to identifying these abusers and reporting them to their employer, university etc. Abusers have been fired and expelled over such cases. Governments overseas whose citizens participate in such online abuse groups need to be doing more. Membership in online animal abuse groups needs to be criminalized.
- throw9394948 1y ago[flagged]
- adastra22 1y agothat's not the abuse being talked about here
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- npteljes 1y agoSo to throw me to prison, all one needs to do is break in, and let my cat loose. Also, abandonment is just a minuscule part of human animal abuse.
- throw9394948 1y ago[flagged]
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- munchlax 1y agoYou have no idea how much F*s a cat gives. You don't even have to feed my cat for it to like you. Any human attention at all and the engine runs.
- throw9384i585i5 1y ago[flagged]
- munchlax 1y agoMy cat appears to be well nurtured. I just petted it and it responded with purrs and resumed sleeping comfortably. You could still walk in and it'll want your attention straight away. The only attention it really hates is from dogs. Scares the bejeezus
- throe8484748449 1y ago[flagged]
- Kichererbsen 1y agoSometimes cats just get lost: The go on a walk-about and can't find the way home. I have a hunch that's more common than animal abuse. How does your system address that?
- awesome_dude 1y agoI was thinking about all the stories of people moving homes, and their pets escaping to return to the place they just left, sometimes across continents
- throw9394948 1y ago[flagged]
- PatronBernard 1y agoAlso prison!!!
- CamouflagedKiwi 1y agoThe most common animals that get abandoned are unwanted kittens and puppies, whose owners won't input them into your registry.
- arresin 1y agoIt’s ok if it’s not a perfect system. I would love a public registry of people who have been cruel to animals with a photograph of each person.
- throw8494o4i44i 1y ago[flagged]
- Wowfunhappy 1y ago"Membership" in anything should never be criminalized—that's freedom of association. Animal abuse should be criminalized.
- omcnoe 1y agoWe essentially criminalize membership in other kinds of criminal groups centered around producing and sharing illegal content, the same should apply to animal abuse.
- hshdhdhehd 1y agoYeah but do you need to criminalise membership, or does things like conspiracy, accomplace etc. cover it.
- SiempreViernes 1y agoMembership in an organisation can be conclusive evidence you joined a criminal enterprise/criminal conspiracy, making the the entire debate somewhat moot. But fine, only joining the criminal conspiracy is illegal, being a member can be legal (you always have to join to become a member).
- speed_spread 1y agoYou'll get slander cases of people receiving membership they never applied for. Having your name on some list should never be a crime in itself.
- awesome_dude 1y agoTell that to the members of organisations deemed to be terrorists
- hshdhdhehd 1y agoAlmost every freedom needs exceptions. Better to have freedom in general plus exceptions than no freedom at all. Free speech except yelling fire in the cinema etc.
- throawayonthe 1y agoare there places where it's illegal to kill cats? i know there are cruelty laws, but afaik in most places you are allowed to kill animals "humanely"
- hnbad 1y agoIf you want to be this pedantic, killing humans is technically legal in every country that has soldiers and law enforcement officers.
- throawayonthe 1y agoi do mean by civillians
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- modo_mario 1y ago>China lacks animal welfare laws to protect these cats Does it? I remember a lot of outrage on reddit about people that would supposedly be banned from having pets due to low social credit score. Turns out the article was a complete lie and there was just a law introduced that made banning someone from having pets for a specified time a punishment that could be dished out. Specifically in the case of someone convicted for animal abuse.
- rsynnott 1y agoThat's a fairly weak punishment, tho.
- modo_mario 1y agoIt doesn't have to be the only punishment but was one they couldn't give before and it makes more sense. How else would you make sure to prevent it? Life in jail?
- none2585 1y agoTangential but related - shout-out to nodogsleftbehind.com which is a nonprofit designed to save dogs from cruel treatment and the meat market in China.
- moron4hire 1y agoI was confused by how that might be possible, because I first assumed this would have been something like how the SPCA or animal rescue shelters work in the US, where there would be a central location where the animals are handled and processed. But I'm getting the impression that these are automated boxes that are placed in-situ in cities?
- varispeed 1y agoIf they neuter all stray cats, they will end up with no cats. Then they'll end up with mice.
- ocean117 1y ago其实还好，这是极端个例，在中国都上不了几次新闻的那种，中国的绝育计划大多是民间宠物店或者宠物医院推动的，你可以从中国的抖音看着，官方除了几个发达城市直接不管，所以中国有着世界上最高的流浪猫狗群体，以及传播范围最广的狂犬病和最高的狂犬病疫苗滥用率，在这里甚至你被家养兔子咬了医生都会建议你使用血清。 In fact, fortunately, this is an extreme case, in China can not be on the news several times, China's sterilization program is mostly promoted by private pet stores or pet hospitals, you can watch from China's Douyin, the official except for a few developed cities directly ignore, so China has the highest stray cat and dog group in the world, as well as the most widespread rabies and the highest rabies vaccine abuse rate, here even if you are bitten by a domestic rabbit, the doctor will advise you to use serum.