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I'm starting to be feel embarrassed using my mac in tech circles again :/

Roritharr 14y ago
Well since HP announced the Spectre One i feel embarassed for my Envy 17... http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/10/hp-spectre-one-all-in-one-envy-20-envy-23-pavilion-20/ http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/10/hp-spectre-one-all-in-one...
mistercow 14y ago
Well, you could always switch to Linux. The latest versions of KDE, GNOME and Unity are all pretty close to a mac-level experience now (especially since OS X has been going downhill after Snow Leopard). I miss a few apps here and there of course, but that problem is nothing new to a long-time mac user anyway. The only other major problem is that Linux desktop environments aren't configured very nicely out of the box (If you're used to OS X). I've been happiest with kubuntu so far, but it's taken a few hours to get it set up the way I like it.
- drivebyacct2 14y ago
  If you like Linux and want a DE like Mac, try elementary OS luna: http://imgur.com/a/AbCwV/layout/horizontal#0 http://imgur.com/a/AbCwV/layout/horizontal#0
  - mistercow 14y ago
    Definitely something to keep an eye on, but I'm a little concerned about how the website shies away from even mentioning that it's a Linux distro until you dig in pretty deep. Rather important information if you want to know what software will run under it.
tarellel 14y ago
Same here, I love telling people that I have a mac for development. But with all the senseless lawsuits they've been filing as of lately I'm completely ashamed to be supporting such a company. It's like they don't like competition they have to litigate their way through everything, what happened to being a fair competitor?
azakai 14y ago
Yeah, it used to be embarrassing to use anything but a mac in silicon valley and other tech circles. That seems to be changing now, I keep hearing people are not buying a mac for their next machine. And when you see someone without a mac these days, the first assumption isn't that they lack style, it's that they are willing to compromise on another machine in order to not support Apple's patent warfare.
- Stratoscope 14y ago
  You are still making the wrong assumption. You're not taking into account that there are many of us who prefer ThinkPads (or other PC hardware) over Mac hardware and prefer Windows 7 or Linux over OSX. We're not "compromising" on another machine, we're choosing the machine that best suits our needs. Of course, every machine and OS has its own compromises. As much as I love ThinkPads, Lenovo has really cheaped out on the display panels the last several years. I hope the Retina MacBook spurs them into returning to the high-quality displays ThinkPads used to offer. But still, I enjoy using my ThinkPads and Windows much more than I enjoy my Macs. I find them more pleasant to use and more productive. A notebook without a TrackPoint [1] has no appeal for me. When I see someone using a Mac, I don't assume that they bought a machine for style and are unaware of how superior a ThinkPad would be. I assume that the Mac meets their needs better than the ThinkPad would. After all, I only know my own needs and preferences, not theirs. What I've never understood is why so many in the Mac-loving tech community have looked with such disdain on people who prefer other systems. I respect people who choose Macs over ThinkPads; it would be nice to receive that same respect in return. (Don't get me wrong, I didn't take your comment as being disrespectful; I'm just talking about an attitude I've gotten from other Mac enthusiasts from time to time.) [1]: http://www.google.com/search?q=love+trackpoint http://www.google.com/search?q=love+trackpoint
  - arrrg 14y ago
    I only ever experienced disdain in the other direction, PC users constantly griping about how anyone could be so stupid and buy a Mac. I do not think that either Mac or PC users are more likely to do something like that.

Well since HP announced the Spectre One i feel embarassed for my Envy 17... http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/10/hp-spectre-one-all-in-one-envy-20-envy-23-pavilion-20/ http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/10/hp-spectre-one-all-in-one...

mistercow 14y ago

Well, you could always switch to Linux. The latest versions of KDE, GNOME and Unity are all pretty close to a mac-level experience now (especially since OS X has been going downhill after Snow Leopard). I miss a few apps here and there of course, but that problem is nothing new to a long-time mac user anyway. The only other major problem is that Linux desktop environments aren't configured very nicely out of the box (If you're used to OS X). I've been happiest with kubuntu so far, but it's taken a few hours to get it set up the way I like it.

drivebyacct2 14y ago
If you like Linux and want a DE like Mac, try elementary OS luna: http://imgur.com/a/AbCwV/layout/horizontal#0 http://imgur.com/a/AbCwV/layout/horizontal#0
- mistercow 14y ago
  Definitely something to keep an eye on, but I'm a little concerned about how the website shies away from even mentioning that it's a Linux distro until you dig in pretty deep. Rather important information if you want to know what software will run under it.

tarellel 14y ago

Same here, I love telling people that I have a mac for development. But with all the senseless lawsuits they've been filing as of lately I'm completely ashamed to be supporting such a company. It's like they don't like competition they have to litigate their way through everything, what happened to being a fair competitor?

azakai 14y ago

Yeah, it used to be embarrassing to use anything but a mac in silicon valley and other tech circles. That seems to be changing now, I keep hearing people are not buying a mac for their next machine. And when you see someone without a mac these days, the first assumption isn't that they lack style, it's that they are willing to compromise on another machine in order to not support Apple's patent warfare.

Stratoscope 14y ago
You are still making the wrong assumption. You're not taking into account that there are many of us who prefer ThinkPads (or other PC hardware) over Mac hardware and prefer Windows 7 or Linux over OSX. We're not "compromising" on another machine, we're choosing the machine that best suits our needs. Of course, every machine and OS has its own compromises. As much as I love ThinkPads, Lenovo has really cheaped out on the display panels the last several years. I hope the Retina MacBook spurs them into returning to the high-quality displays ThinkPads used to offer. But still, I enjoy using my ThinkPads and Windows much more than I enjoy my Macs. I find them more pleasant to use and more productive. A notebook without a TrackPoint [1] has no appeal for me. When I see someone using a Mac, I don't assume that they bought a machine for style and are unaware of how superior a ThinkPad would be. I assume that the Mac meets their needs better than the ThinkPad would. After all, I only know my own needs and preferences, not theirs. What I've never understood is why so many in the Mac-loving tech community have looked with such disdain on people who prefer other systems. I respect people who choose Macs over ThinkPads; it would be nice to receive that same respect in return. (Don't get me wrong, I didn't take your comment as being disrespectful; I'm just talking about an attitude I've gotten from other Mac enthusiasts from time to time.) [1]: http://www.google.com/search?q=love+trackpoint http://www.google.com/search?q=love+trackpoint
- arrrg 14y ago
  I only ever experienced disdain in the other direction, PC users constantly griping about how anyone could be so stupid and buy a Mac. I do not think that either Mac or PC users are more likely to do something like that.