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Why does it have to be either-or? It's more of a revolving door. One of the clearer modes of how this all looks can be seen when using public records laws to r
by chaps 1y ago
Why does it have to be either-or? It's more of a revolving door.
One of the clearer modes of how this all looks can be seen when using public records laws to request information that was created through a government contract. On one side, trade secrecy is a legit thing. On the other hand, it's abused to the Nth degree such that just about anything is "trade secret". Government agencies will literally just ask the company's counsel if records in a records request can be released and they'll copy/paste the answer.
For example: I took an uber from an East Chicago, IN restaurant to a Chicago, IL planned parenthood and then FOIA'd for the GPS records that the city legally requires Uber to provide for every trip [1]. In the request I included the trip identifier that I found on the city's open data portal [2]. For months and months they denied, denied, denied, even after a request for emails gave me the exact SQL query they wrote to identify my trip.
Eventually when I narrowed the request down to the exact fields, they finally agreed that they have the records, but argued that the data (edit: just lat/lng of the start/end locations) showing me going to a planned parenthood was a trade secret. It would be trivial for Chicago's counsel to push back on that, but they seemed to have zero interest in reflecting on the risks of holding this category of data.
[1] https://chicago.github.io/tnp-reporting-manual/trip/ https://chicago.github.io/tnp-reporting-manual/trip/
[2] https://data.cityofchicago.org/Transportation/Transportation-Network-Providers-Trips-2025-/6dvr-xwnh/data_preview https://data.cityofchicago.org/Transportation/Transportation...