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I like the pelican riding a bike test, but my standards for what’s “good” seem higher than generally expected by others. The models can generate hyper realisti

I like the pelican riding a bike test, but my standards for what’s “good” seem higher than generally expected by others. The models can generate hyper realistic renders of pelicans riding bikes in png format. They also have perfect knowledge of the SVG spec, and comprehensive knowledge of most human creative artistic endeavours. They should be able to produce astonishing results for the request. I don’t want to see a chunky icon-styled vector graphic. I want to see one of these models meticulously paint what is unambiguously a pelican riding what is unambiguously a bicycle, to a quality on-par with Michelangelo, using the SVG standard as a medium. And I don’t just want it to define individual pixels. I want brush strokes building up a layered and textured birds wing.

scrollaway 1y ago
It’s not true agi until it can recreate the emotional state of Van Gogh when he cut his ear and express the pain through the brush, in svg format.
paintbox 1y ago
>I like the pelican riding a bike test, but my standards for what’s “good” seem higher than generally expected by others. If you train for your first marathon, is your goal to run it under 2h? We are all looking forward to perfect results, but our standards are reasonable. We know what the results were last month, and judge the improvement velocity. Nobody thinks that's a good SVG of a pelican riding a bike - on it's own. But it's a lot better compared to all the other LLM-generated SVGs of a pelican riding a bike. We judge relative results - you judge absolute results. Confusion ensues.
- OtherShrezzing 1y ago
  I think you’re missing the criticism I’m making. The models already have the capacity both to create hyper-real imagery, and they have mastery of the SVG medium. These two capabilities are the entire recipe a human would need to produce what I’ve described. To use your marathon metaphor, they have the body of Kipchoge in his absolute prime, and are failing to qualify for a local fun-run.
fkyoureadthedoc 1y ago
But you're never going to get that out of the prompt that is being used to generate these Pelicans. You're judging it on something that's not even being attempted.

scrollaway 1y ago

It’s not true agi until it can recreate the emotional state of Van Gogh when he cut his ear and express the pain through the brush, in svg format.

paintbox 1y ago

>I like the pelican riding a bike test, but my standards for what’s “good” seem higher than generally expected by others. If you train for your first marathon, is your goal to run it under 2h? We are all looking forward to perfect results, but our standards are reasonable. We know what the results were last month, and judge the improvement velocity. Nobody thinks that's a good SVG of a pelican riding a bike - on it's own. But it's a lot better compared to all the other LLM-generated SVGs of a pelican riding a bike. We judge relative results - you judge absolute results. Confusion ensues.

OtherShrezzing 1y ago
I think you’re missing the criticism I’m making. The models already have the capacity both to create hyper-real imagery, and they have mastery of the SVG medium. These two capabilities are the entire recipe a human would need to produce what I’ve described. To use your marathon metaphor, they have the body of Kipchoge in his absolute prime, and are failing to qualify for a local fun-run.

fkyoureadthedoc 1y ago

But you're never going to get that out of the prompt that is being used to generate these Pelicans. You're judging it on something that's not even being attempted.