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> try dry needling Yeah, that's a "no" from me dawg. My PT stuck the needle in, and I was fine with that. Then he moved it a little, and I turned pale as a gho

> try dry needling Yeah, that's a "no" from me dawg. My PT stuck the needle in, and I was fine with that. Then he moved it a little, and I turned pale as a ghost and started sweating. Same thing happened when I had my nerve conduction study - never again. Needles going in and out is fine. Needles moving around under my skin ain't gonna happen any more. (Except at the dentist, but that's what the laughing gas is for!)

drjasonharrison 1y ago
My experience with dry needling was just in and out, no movement laterally or in depth after insertion. I'm sorry you experienced this.
- adastra22 1y ago
  The whole point of the electro therapy is to make the muscle move though, so this is effectively the same (Galilean relativity) as moving the needle, right?
bwoah 1y ago
I had the same thing happen once, and it was as fascinating as it was unsettling. Very slight movement of one needle in what seemed like a pretty inconsequential part of my body produced a near-instantaneous full-body reaction involving many systems.
- fair_enough 1y ago
  That's the magic of action potentials. As sodium ions (+1 charge) propagate, they dissipate throughout the cytosol and sometimes leak out of the cell membrane, but they also trigger their own influx of regenerative current by opening voltage-gated ion channels on the cell membrane. Think of it as a "signal repeater". As long as the initial stimulus is strong enough to trigger an action potential, the signal propagates all the way from the nerve ending to the central nervous system, and whatever response the CNS cooks up always makes it all the way to all the muscles it intends to trigger. Stated another way, the peripheral and central nervous system have enough of these signal repeaters for any signal to travel anywhere.
ehnto 1y ago
I usually great with all kinds of pain, but I had to have injured fingernails removed and they put needles down the side of my fingers to numb them. Needles against the bone, not a feeling I want to experience again. I didn't return for the other nail, I preferred to do it at home with a knife, it was less painful.
weird-eye-issue 1y ago
Were you laying down or seated? Laying down is fine for me. But if I'm seated I will start sweating, get really hot, feel nauseous, and almost pass out This has happened during dry needling and just ultrasound therapy

drjasonharrison 1y ago

My experience with dry needling was just in and out, no movement laterally or in depth after insertion. I'm sorry you experienced this.

adastra22 1y ago
The whole point of the electro therapy is to make the muscle move though, so this is effectively the same (Galilean relativity) as moving the needle, right?

bwoah 1y ago

I had the same thing happen once, and it was as fascinating as it was unsettling. Very slight movement of one needle in what seemed like a pretty inconsequential part of my body produced a near-instantaneous full-body reaction involving many systems.

fair_enough 1y ago
That's the magic of action potentials. As sodium ions (+1 charge) propagate, they dissipate throughout the cytosol and sometimes leak out of the cell membrane, but they also trigger their own influx of regenerative current by opening voltage-gated ion channels on the cell membrane. Think of it as a "signal repeater". As long as the initial stimulus is strong enough to trigger an action potential, the signal propagates all the way from the nerve ending to the central nervous system, and whatever response the CNS cooks up always makes it all the way to all the muscles it intends to trigger. Stated another way, the peripheral and central nervous system have enough of these signal repeaters for any signal to travel anywhere.

ehnto 1y ago

I usually great with all kinds of pain, but I had to have injured fingernails removed and they put needles down the side of my fingers to numb them. Needles against the bone, not a feeling I want to experience again. I didn't return for the other nail, I preferred to do it at home with a knife, it was less painful.

weird-eye-issue 1y ago

Were you laying down or seated? Laying down is fine for me. But if I'm seated I will start sweating, get really hot, feel nauseous, and almost pass out This has happened during dry needling and just ultrasound therapy