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This pejorative was fairly famously used in Germany leading up to and during WWII, often in combination with Jewish-controlled also as pejorative. Both points w
by j4coh 1y ago
This pejorative was fairly famously used in Germany leading up to and during WWII, often in combination with Jewish-controlled also as pejorative. Both points were repopularised in the US around 2016 or so by Richard Spencer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Spencer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Spencer). For some reason both are now entering more mainstream usage among the right.
- parineum 1y agoFox News and OAN are part of the press. Do you think they're honest?
- j4coh 1y agoWell, I wouldn't shut down or lock out any press. I wouldn't shut down Jewish-owned press either. All news and media is biased, and there's no such platonic ideal of honesty. Then again, I don't have "enemies" that I need to destroy so maybe you're asking the wrong person.
- parineum 1y ago> This pejorative was fairly famously used in Germany leading up to and during WWII, Presumably you mean "dishonest". Do you think OAN is dishonest and perhaps disruptive to world peace? Thinking the press is dishonest does not make one a Nazi. Even if disliking the press were a sign if despotism, Clconsider what makes Nazism unique compared to other despotic regimes, disliking the press ain't it.
- j4coh 1y agoI don't think any free press is disruptive to world peace. Even if you get your wish and shut up any outlet you personally find dishonest you're not going to achieve world peace. At least not the kind I'd like to live in.
- intended 1y agoNo. They are propaganda outlets, and must not be considered separately from the Republican Party. The current mechanism is 1) Fringe theory gestates in the internet. 2) Fringe theory gets into the podcast network and is covered 3) Relatively famous personality comes on a Fox program and mentions the theory 4) Government figures repeats theory that was covered on the news 5) Fox repeats government coverage People on the right who have alternative theories, simply do not get air time. They aren’t suppressed, they are simply not competitive. In a more economic framing of their efforts - they have found a way to offset the costs of inaccurate content to the future. So they are now able to “sell” cheap “junk food” content, while the center and left spends more effort in forming more accurate content. The center and left publications, for all their flaws, still stick to journalistic norms. But today the NYT is more a site dependent on its wordle revenue than its subscription revenue. Consolidation of markets means advertisers do not need smaller local newspapers, and platforms get the lions share of attention. There is no business model to sustain a free information economy.
- hunterpayne 1y ago> The center and left publications, for all their flaws, still stick to journalistic norms. Up until about 2016 I would have agreed to this. After the last month or two, I don't see how a rational human can think this anymore. Neither side has any mainstream news outlet which tries to be honest in its reporting. You want facts? The talking heads have their own YouTube channels now. If you can find a decent selection of them, they provide more honest reporting and far better analysis than the media on either side provides currently.
- intended 1y agoI can say this because the most comprehensive research that covered this indicated this is the case. Funnily enough - it was also indexed to 2016, however the drift on the left has yet to catch up to the right.
- Hikikomori 1y agoWouldn't call Der Stürmer honest either.
- consumer451 1y ago> often in combination with Jewish-controlled also as pejorative. Am I alone in thinking that "woke" was the catch-all for the enemy this time around?
- vintermann 1y agoYes, calling the media liars is a thing the Nazis did. However, it's not a good reason to equate someone with Nazis because lots of other people from all parts of the political spectrum have called the media liars from time to time. And a number of times, the media has even deserved it. I challenge anyone who disagrees to go take a dive in historical newspaper archives.
- j4coh 1y agoI'm not equating Richard Spencer with Nazis because of this. He's quite literally a white surpemacist and neo-nazi who wants to get rid of the Jews.
- vintermann 1y agoExactly. He has many opinions a lot more characteristic to Nazis than "the media sucks".
- Hikikomori 1y agoNot only that, fake news is basically lugenpresse as Hitler called them.