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Larry Ellison recently said that “Citizens will be on their best behaviour, because we’re constantly recording and reporting everything that is going on”. In U

by Lio 1y ago

Larry Ellison recently said that “Citizens will be on their best behaviour, because we’re constantly recording and reporting everything that is going on”. In UK we’ve recently introduced a series of laws that force people to identify themselves online and the introduction of a digital ID scheme. We’ve recently had some high profile arrests for free speech violations. We even have TVs and cars that spy on us. These fuckers are actively trying to build a boot to stand on the face of humanity. https://fortune.com/2024/09/17/oracle-larry-ellison-surveillance-state-police-ai/ https://fortune.com/2024/09/17/oracle-larry-ellison-surveill...

trhway 1y ago
who is to wear that boot? It is some aliens?
- Lio 1y ago
  The boot is a metaphore for the state in 1984. ‘If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.’ O’Brien says it to Winston after he's through torturing him in Room 101. It represents total surveillance and total control, all of the time, forever. This is the vision that Ellison, Zuckerberg, CCP, Musk, et al have for us, but not for them. They get the good coffee and they get to turn their "telescreens" off.
  - trhway 1y ago
    >They get the good coffee and they get to turn their "telescreens" off. are they really? And if they are, why we let them?
    - hilbert42 1y ago
      "…why we let them?" The problem with democracy is its noise. With regard to such matters most citizens couldn't give a fuck, and those few who do care will have countermanding views. Thus, opinionated views mostly cancel out and governments (mainly the faceless gnomes within the bureaucracy) are left to legislate whatever they like into law. More often than not, laws end up reflecting things that make their lives easier. In short, democracy best serves vested interests, much less so ordinary citizens.
    - lelanthran 1y ago
      > are they really? And if they are, why we let them? Since this speculation is in context of the book, I expect that the answer to your question is what's in the book - they have the guns and we don't.
    - cosmicgadget 1y ago
      > why we let them? We're going to find out when the house recovenes.
scotty79 1y ago
> Larry Ellison recently said that “Citizens will be on their best behaviour, because we’re constantly recording and reporting everything that is going on”. John Romero had a speech that I part basically implied that behavioral cheat detection techniques from online games will ultimately seep into detecting crime from real world mass surveillance data.

by Lio 1y ago

trhway 1y ago

who is to wear that boot? It is some aliens?

Lio 1y ago
The boot is a metaphore for the state in 1984. ‘If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.’ O’Brien says it to Winston after he's through torturing him in Room 101. It represents total surveillance and total control, all of the time, forever. This is the vision that Ellison, Zuckerberg, CCP, Musk, et al have for us, but not for them. They get the good coffee and they get to turn their "telescreens" off.
- trhway 1y ago
  >They get the good coffee and they get to turn their "telescreens" off. are they really? And if they are, why we let them?
  - hilbert42 1y ago
    "…why we let them?" The problem with democracy is its noise. With regard to such matters most citizens couldn't give a fuck, and those few who do care will have countermanding views. Thus, opinionated views mostly cancel out and governments (mainly the faceless gnomes within the bureaucracy) are left to legislate whatever they like into law. More often than not, laws end up reflecting things that make their lives easier. In short, democracy best serves vested interests, much less so ordinary citizens.
  - lelanthran 1y ago
    > are they really? And if they are, why we let them? Since this speculation is in context of the book, I expect that the answer to your question is what's in the book - they have the guns and we don't.
  - cosmicgadget 1y ago
    > why we let them? We're going to find out when the house recovenes.

scotty79 1y ago

> Larry Ellison recently said that “Citizens will be on their best behaviour, because we’re constantly recording and reporting everything that is going on”. John Romero had a speech that I part basically implied that behavioral cheat detection techniques from online games will ultimately seep into detecting crime from real world mass surveillance data.