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Technically, Zed's Super Compete will almost never catch up with Cursor, or even as good as the free Windsurf. If you look a little closer, you will see that th
by ohroy 1y ago
Technically, Zed's Super Compete will almost never catch up with Cursor, or even as good as the free Windsurf.
If you look a little closer, you will see that the cursor and cursor completion requests are not initiated by the editor itself, which only interacts with the lsp.
Yes. They all come with an LSP, taking free windsurf as an example, when windsurf starts, it will start a process in /Applications/Windsurf.app/Contents/Resources/app/extensions/windsurf/bin/languageservermacosarm, This process is responsible for syntactic analysis of the current code's workspace and then local indexing. The editor communicates with LSP through localhost encoding through protobuf, including the current cursor, currently open tabs, recently viewed files, etc.
The LSP calculates locally based on this information, and if the inference cannot be completed locally, it will automatically extract the necessary information to interact with the server-side LLM. This ensures the intelligence of Super Complete.
However, ZED's Super Complete does not have an LSP. Instead, it interacts directly with the server, which runs a zeta model. This pattern is not smart, takes up a lot of bandwidth and more useless context, and lacks more useful information due to the lack of LSP support.
I hope my technical interpretation above will give you an understanding of why zed's super complete is technically backward. And, since ZED's LSP is configured by a third party, ZED itself does not offer its own languageserver, unless ZED is developing it now, but this is obviously difficult.
In this case, I don't understand why zed would charge for a feature that is clearly lagging behind.
You have to ask me why I know so much about this, because I am a member of Cursor, but I want a Zed Editor, so I want to customize an endpoint I developed by ZEDPREDICTEDITS_URL, relay requests to Cursor, to achieve powerful completion with Cursor in Zed. Obviously, it failed in the end. The above mentioned is the reason for the failure.
- MrDrMcCoy 1y agoDo either Windsurf or Cursor work well with local or no AI? One of the things I like about Zed is that it can, and is completely free.
- ohroy 1y agoExcuse me, can you read what I wrote? I didn't say zed editor is bad, I just said that zed's PREDICT EDIT isn't good enough, or at least it shouldn't charge for it.
- rk06 1y agothey shouldn't charge for it because their competetors have money to burn?? that is not how business works
- ohroy 1y agoI just say they shouldn't charge for it PREDICT EDIT. The reason is that it's not even as good as the free ones. I don't know why you've become such a fanatic, but if you want to support them you can donate.
- MrDrMcCoy 1y agoI never thought you said Zed was bad. I was genuinely asking since Cursor and Windsurf exclusively advertise AI features, whereas Zed is also a good editor without AI. I never bothered to try them because I inherently distrust AI that I don't control, and find the cloud stuff to be too expensive on top. Just wanted to know if they're any good, or can even be used at all, without AI; since their websites say nothing on the subject.
- ohroy 1y agoYes, windsurf and cursor will also work whitout AI, cause it just fork from vscode. I like zed very much. If u dont like AI, then zed is best editor for you. (and for me if zed's AI is good enough)
- monooso 1y agoParagraphs are overrated.