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I should mention that ubuntu phones home a lot. I like the fact that it has done a lot for the linux ecosystem, but there are a few things: - it has a privacy

by m463 1y ago

I should mention that ubuntu phones home a lot. I like the fact that it has done a lot for the linux ecosystem, but there are a few things: - it has a privacy policy - it forces updates - their hardwired package ubuntu-advantage-tools cannot be uninstalled without breaking the os - motd has telemetry and nags - can't disable snaps - whoopsie uploads crashes to canonical now, this is different from windows because the os is mostly open source, but it is important to know not all linux distros are the same (note that because the source is generally open, you can probably figure out how to "fix" most of these problems, but not easily and they are moving targets)

pixxel 1y ago
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spaghetti_king 1y ago
I'm curious what you recommend? I've used Ubuntu mostly because of it's larger community and assumed it was less painful then others but am open to switching. I have to say the endless amount of distros and small differences between them has always been daunting and something I think holds some non-technical people back.
- npteljes 1y ago
  I started with Ubuntu back in the day, and later distro-hopped a lot, but honestly, I find the apt package manager the nicest. So I went back to Ubuntu's source: Debian. I use it with KDE. I also have a good out of the box experience with Zorin (an Ubuntu-based distro). Their goal is to be an alternative to Windows, to make the transition smoother for people coming from Windows. I wanted to test that and just installed it, never used the command line, etc. It feels nice and did everything via a graphical interface I wanted out of a desktop system. >I think holds some non-technical people back. That might seem like an issue, but what matters for adoption is what is packaged with hardware, and what gets support later. Microsoft realized this and capitalized on it big time, and that's why the de facto default PC is Windows. Microsoft took care that governments, schools use Windows and Office, that Windows comes bundled with PCs and laptops, meanwhile they took care that it all interacts at least on a basic level, but at least somewhat reliably.
- mixmastamyk 1y ago
  Mint/Cinnamon is based on Ubuntu and better. No snaps and probably less telemetry. I've got opensnitch and haven't noticed anything sent to Mint.

by m463 1y ago

pixxel 1y ago

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spaghetti_king 1y ago

I'm curious what you recommend? I've used Ubuntu mostly because of it's larger community and assumed it was less painful then others but am open to switching. I have to say the endless amount of distros and small differences between them has always been daunting and something I think holds some non-technical people back.

npteljes 1y ago
I started with Ubuntu back in the day, and later distro-hopped a lot, but honestly, I find the apt package manager the nicest. So I went back to Ubuntu's source: Debian. I use it with KDE. I also have a good out of the box experience with Zorin (an Ubuntu-based distro). Their goal is to be an alternative to Windows, to make the transition smoother for people coming from Windows. I wanted to test that and just installed it, never used the command line, etc. It feels nice and did everything via a graphical interface I wanted out of a desktop system. >I think holds some non-technical people back. That might seem like an issue, but what matters for adoption is what is packaged with hardware, and what gets support later. Microsoft realized this and capitalized on it big time, and that's why the de facto default PC is Windows. Microsoft took care that governments, schools use Windows and Office, that Windows comes bundled with PCs and laptops, meanwhile they took care that it all interacts at least on a basic level, but at least somewhat reliably.
mixmastamyk 1y ago
Mint/Cinnamon is based on Ubuntu and better. No snaps and probably less telemetry. I've got opensnitch and haven't noticed anything sent to Mint.