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I don't use Windows and actually find it kind of insane when I use someone else's computer to see what Windows is like... But it's kind of MSFT's choice whethe

I don't use Windows and actually find it kind of insane when I use someone else's computer to see what Windows is like... But it's kind of MSFT's choice whether TPM and secure boot are requirements for their software. If their software makes security assumptions that the OS has access to trusted hardware then it's a requirement. One could argue that they should create secure and less secure versions of Windows, but I don't think anyone is really going to take that seriously beyond rhetoric. There are a lot of advantages to assuming the hardware is mildly trustworthy. The downside is you may not want Microsoft to be controlling what counts as trusted on your machine. If so, then you probably don't want MSFT to have root in your machine either and you're better off with a different OS.

sciencejerk 1y ago
I'm no MS fanboy, but don't you think Content Platforms like Netflix or Steam might be applying DRM pressure to Microsoft? And perhaps IP owners also apply pressure to the Content Providers to lock down their platforms, which may include hardware that has access to protected IP
- thewebguyd 1y ago
  I'd say content platforms absolutely are applying pressure on MS (And Google, and Apple as well). I'd be willing to bet governments are as well, and I'd also be willing to bet that Google's upcoming sideloading/developer ID changes on Android are also from government pressure.
- amlib 1y ago
  Valve/Steam is definitely not applying any pressure, they've always been against strong DRM. Even the steam deck lacks any hardware locks or fancy DRM.
aleph_minus_one 1y ago
> There are a lot of advantages to assuming the hardware is mildly trustworthy. The downside is you may not want Microsoft to be controlling what counts as trusted on your machine. In an IT security context, "trusted" (example: "trusted computing") means distrusting the users.

sciencejerk 1y ago

I'm no MS fanboy, but don't you think Content Platforms like Netflix or Steam might be applying DRM pressure to Microsoft? And perhaps IP owners also apply pressure to the Content Providers to lock down their platforms, which may include hardware that has access to protected IP

thewebguyd 1y ago
I'd say content platforms absolutely are applying pressure on MS (And Google, and Apple as well). I'd be willing to bet governments are as well, and I'd also be willing to bet that Google's upcoming sideloading/developer ID changes on Android are also from government pressure.
amlib 1y ago
Valve/Steam is definitely not applying any pressure, they've always been against strong DRM. Even the steam deck lacks any hardware locks or fancy DRM.

aleph_minus_one 1y ago

> There are a lot of advantages to assuming the hardware is mildly trustworthy. The downside is you may not want Microsoft to be controlling what counts as trusted on your machine. In an IT security context, "trusted" (example: "trusted computing") means distrusting the users.