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Same. I have an M1 Max Studio and it's just laughing at the little workloads I throw at it (pro photo editing, music production, software dev, generally all at

Same. I have an M1 Max Studio and it's just laughing at the little workloads I throw at it (pro photo editing, music production, software dev, generally all at the same time). It just never sweats AT ALL - it feels like a decade from obsolescence based on what I'm doing now. It would have to be an order of magnitude faster for me to even notice at this point.

kinnth 1y ago
yup I'm an M1 max laptop, i actually went upto an m4 pro and went back the m1 max, it could handle more trading screens!
oblio 1y ago
You're not opening enough Chrome tabs. Or Electron apps.
- deleted 1y ago
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andrepd 1y ago
You're clearly running low-intensity tasks (pro photo editing, music production, software dev, generally all at the same time) instead of highly-demanding ones (1 jira tab)
- djtriptych 1y ago
  lol
zahirbmirza 1y ago
Obsolescence for Macs comes when Apple decides not to allow your mac update the OS to the latest one.
- phony-account 1y ago
  > Obsolescence for Macs comes when Apple decides not to allow your mac update the OS to the latest one. That doesn’t make it obsolete, at all.
  - badc0ffee 1y ago
    When they stop releasing security patches for that OS version 2 years later, it becomes more risky to connect the thing to a network. Or take in any data from the outside, really, whether it's via Bluetooth, or USB drive. And then there's 3rd party software that will stop supporting that old OS version, in part because Apple's dev tools make that difficult. Eventually, Apple's own services will stop supporting that OS - no convenient iCloud support. Finally, the root CA certs bundled with the OS will become too out of date to use. I'm planning on putting Linux on my Intel Mac Mini soon. But when a M3+ Mini goes out of support, will we have that option?
    - unilynx 1y ago
      Don't forget about Bootcamp for the (soon) obsolete Intels . With a debloated Windows 10 (which we're not going to connect to the internet anyway) they can live on for older games.
    - illusive4080 1y ago
      Even my 2017 MBP on macOS 13 still gets security updates. Heck iPhone 6 got a security update recently. Your points are valid but it’s not 2 years, it’s more than that for big vulnerabilities.
      - badc0ffee 1y ago
        > Even my 2017 MBP on macOS 13 still gets security updates. Has it had one since macOS 26 came out? They usually do 2 versions behind - in the summer, that was macOS 13, but now it's macOS 14.
      - yencabulator 1y ago
        macOS 13 stopped getting any updates on September 15. Insert coin to continue. https://endoflife.date/macos https://endoflife.date/macos
- culi 1y ago
  then you turn it into a hackintosh or install linux on the machine instead (Asahi Linux is looking pretty good for silicon)
- j45 1y ago
  Hasn’t happened in a long time and people seem to use a utility open core to install newer or the latest macos on old Macs. https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/ https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/
  - pxc 1y ago
    That's Intel-only, and will be of increasingly little use when Apple stops releasing Intel builds of new releases of macOS.
    - j45 1y ago
      Fair point, but it covers all the intel laptops which has some value. Hopefully there will be some insight from what Asahi Linux is doing or has in store and what might be transferrable.
poultron 1y ago
Obsolescence comes when Apple conveniently "optimizes" a new architecture in the OS for a new chip... that conveniently, ironically, somehow severely de-optimizes things for the old chips... and suddenly that shiny new OS feels slow and sluggish and clunky and "damn I need to upgrade my computer!." They'll whitewash it not as planned obsolescence but optimization for new products. Doesn't have to be that way, shouldn't be that way, but its incredibly profitable.
- MPSimmons 1y ago
  Maybe by that time ARM linux on this platform will be excellent and we can migrate to it for old gear. I still have a 2011 MBP running Linux on my electronics workbench and it is just fine.
j45 1y ago
So many articles I’ve read about the Mac Studio is how it very easily could be a 10year computer effortlessly. The additional cooling in them seems quite helpful to their performance compared to the same chip in a laptop.

kinnth 1y ago

yup I'm an M1 max laptop, i actually went upto an m4 pro and went back the m1 max, it could handle more trading screens!

oblio 1y ago

You're not opening enough Chrome tabs. Or Electron apps.

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andrepd 1y ago

You're clearly running low-intensity tasks (pro photo editing, music production, software dev, generally all at the same time) instead of highly-demanding ones (1 jira tab)

djtriptych 1y ago
lol

zahirbmirza 1y ago

Obsolescence for Macs comes when Apple decides not to allow your mac update the OS to the latest one.

phony-account 1y ago
> Obsolescence for Macs comes when Apple decides not to allow your mac update the OS to the latest one. That doesn’t make it obsolete, at all.
- badc0ffee 1y ago
  When they stop releasing security patches for that OS version 2 years later, it becomes more risky to connect the thing to a network. Or take in any data from the outside, really, whether it's via Bluetooth, or USB drive. And then there's 3rd party software that will stop supporting that old OS version, in part because Apple's dev tools make that difficult. Eventually, Apple's own services will stop supporting that OS - no convenient iCloud support. Finally, the root CA certs bundled with the OS will become too out of date to use. I'm planning on putting Linux on my Intel Mac Mini soon. But when a M3+ Mini goes out of support, will we have that option?
  - unilynx 1y ago
    Don't forget about Bootcamp for the (soon) obsolete Intels . With a debloated Windows 10 (which we're not going to connect to the internet anyway) they can live on for older games.
  - illusive4080 1y ago
    Even my 2017 MBP on macOS 13 still gets security updates. Heck iPhone 6 got a security update recently. Your points are valid but it’s not 2 years, it’s more than that for big vulnerabilities.
    - badc0ffee 1y ago
      > Even my 2017 MBP on macOS 13 still gets security updates. Has it had one since macOS 26 came out? They usually do 2 versions behind - in the summer, that was macOS 13, but now it's macOS 14.
    - yencabulator 1y ago
      macOS 13 stopped getting any updates on September 15. Insert coin to continue. https://endoflife.date/macos https://endoflife.date/macos
culi 1y ago
then you turn it into a hackintosh or install linux on the machine instead (Asahi Linux is looking pretty good for silicon)
j45 1y ago
Hasn’t happened in a long time and people seem to use a utility open core to install newer or the latest macos on old Macs. https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/ https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/
- pxc 1y ago
  That's Intel-only, and will be of increasingly little use when Apple stops releasing Intel builds of new releases of macOS.
  - j45 1y ago
    Fair point, but it covers all the intel laptops which has some value. Hopefully there will be some insight from what Asahi Linux is doing or has in store and what might be transferrable.

poultron 1y ago

Obsolescence comes when Apple conveniently "optimizes" a new architecture in the OS for a new chip... that conveniently, ironically, somehow severely de-optimizes things for the old chips... and suddenly that shiny new OS feels slow and sluggish and clunky and "damn I need to upgrade my computer!." They'll whitewash it not as planned obsolescence but optimization for new products. Doesn't have to be that way, shouldn't be that way, but its incredibly profitable.

MPSimmons 1y ago
Maybe by that time ARM linux on this platform will be excellent and we can migrate to it for old gear. I still have a 2011 MBP running Linux on my electronics workbench and it is just fine.

j45 1y ago

So many articles I’ve read about the Mac Studio is how it very easily could be a 10year computer effortlessly. The additional cooling in them seems quite helpful to their performance compared to the same chip in a laptop.