> I think a lot of this is because people (and thus LLMs) use verbosity as a signal for effort. It's also one of the main use-cases for non-programmer use of t

> I think a lot of this is because people (and thus LLMs) use verbosity as a signal for effort. It's also one of the main use-cases for non-programmer use of the models, so there are business-forces against toning it down. Ex: "Make a funny birthday letter for my sister Suzie who's turning 50."