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What else does the OS need to do? There are real windows and real background processing.

wlesieutre 1y ago
It's a useful device if you're an artist, if you're a developer the best thing you can do with it is buy the cellular model and use it as a very thin VNC client
- raw_anon_1111 1y ago
  Yes and developers are a very small slice of the computer using consumers.
- fkyoureadthedoc 1y ago
  There's a whole spectrum of use cases between artist and software developer. Honestly most people that I see at work just use Office software, web browser, and Teams.
  - wlesieutre 1y ago
    Office is a great use for a $350 regular iPad. Honestly the same one I'd recommend to developers, or worst case an $800 iPad Air for the 13" screen size. The $1000+ iPad Pro isn't helpful for any of that.
    - fkyoureadthedoc 1y ago
      That's true, and I would have gone for a 13" iPad Air when they were introduced, but ultimately went for the iPad Pro because I liked the OLED and 120Hz.
  - pjmlp 1y ago
    None of that requires the power of an M5.
    - fkyoureadthedoc 1y ago
      Neither does developing software given we've all been doing it for ages despite the M5 not existing, still nice to have though. Plus you get more longevity, I'll keep my M4 iPad Pro until doesn't get OS updates anymore. I still feel no impetus to update my M1 laptop despite it being 4 years old.
- 0x457 1y ago
  > buy the cellular model You probably have your iPhone with you every time you got an iPad with you, so just use that.
  - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
    With T-Mobile, I have unlimited data on my iPhone and iPad. But limited tethering data. My iPad data plan is $20-$25 a month.
  - akdev1l 1y ago
    Except the iPad battery will last longer and will not kill your phone while you do stuff >inb4 buy a battery bank
    - 0x457 1y ago
      Hmm, I will be honest, I was either always close to a power outlet or it lasted long enough for me. You only need to tether if there is no Wi-Fi. I have a 20000mAh with me when I intend to work remotely though. Either way cheaper than paying for another plan for iPad and buying a more expensive iPad.
gedy 1y ago
Normal-ish files and filesystem access, and dev types could use access to the terminal (on the system)
- raw_anon_1111 1y ago
  What’s not “normal” about the files and why do most people need access to the file system and not a method to share files across apps that’s already available?
  - JodieBenitez 1y ago
    > a method to share files across apps that’s already available like a filesystem ?
    - reaperducer 1y ago
      like a filesystem ? https://apps.apple.com/us/app/files/id1232058109 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/files/id1232058109
    - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
      You didn’t answer the question, what feature can’t you do with the Files App and the ability to save and load files across applications?
      - monkmartinez 1y ago
        How do you know you have the right application to open the file? I have tried at least a dozen apps to open *.stl files... some work, most don't. Some have features I need and don't work opening files. Some are sensitive to stl's that require repair and stop working... and I could go on and on for different file types. The point is; sharing isn't "guaranteed" to work across apps and is generally far, far from "it just works". You have almost zero control over the actual files because there might not be a way to save different formats from the app you are using, or the files app doesn't recognize the extension, or you can't find the folder for the other app, or it doesn't have a user accessible folder, or it will not load files from the "files app"... or <insert 50000 more "what if's here>. The whole things just sucks so, so bad.
majormunky 1y ago
It would be great if they allowed JIT compilation in apps. This would allow things like Dolphin (Wii, Gamecube emulator) to run.

It's a useful device if you're an artist, if you're a developer the best thing you can do with it is buy the cellular model and use it as a very thin VNC client

raw_anon_1111 1y ago
Yes and developers are a very small slice of the computer using consumers.
fkyoureadthedoc 1y ago
There's a whole spectrum of use cases between artist and software developer. Honestly most people that I see at work just use Office software, web browser, and Teams.
- wlesieutre 1y ago
  Office is a great use for a $350 regular iPad. Honestly the same one I'd recommend to developers, or worst case an $800 iPad Air for the 13" screen size. The $1000+ iPad Pro isn't helpful for any of that.
  - fkyoureadthedoc 1y ago
    That's true, and I would have gone for a 13" iPad Air when they were introduced, but ultimately went for the iPad Pro because I liked the OLED and 120Hz.
- pjmlp 1y ago
  None of that requires the power of an M5.
  - fkyoureadthedoc 1y ago
    Neither does developing software given we've all been doing it for ages despite the M5 not existing, still nice to have though. Plus you get more longevity, I'll keep my M4 iPad Pro until doesn't get OS updates anymore. I still feel no impetus to update my M1 laptop despite it being 4 years old.
0x457 1y ago
> buy the cellular model You probably have your iPhone with you every time you got an iPad with you, so just use that.
- raw_anon_1111 1y ago
  With T-Mobile, I have unlimited data on my iPhone and iPad. But limited tethering data. My iPad data plan is $20-$25 a month.
- akdev1l 1y ago
  Except the iPad battery will last longer and will not kill your phone while you do stuff >inb4 buy a battery bank
  - 0x457 1y ago
    Hmm, I will be honest, I was either always close to a power outlet or it lasted long enough for me. You only need to tether if there is no Wi-Fi. I have a 20000mAh with me when I intend to work remotely though. Either way cheaper than paying for another plan for iPad and buying a more expensive iPad.

gedy 1y ago

Normal-ish files and filesystem access, and dev types could use access to the terminal (on the system)

raw_anon_1111 1y ago
What’s not “normal” about the files and why do most people need access to the file system and not a method to share files across apps that’s already available?
- JodieBenitez 1y ago
  > a method to share files across apps that’s already available like a filesystem ?
  - reaperducer 1y ago
    like a filesystem ? https://apps.apple.com/us/app/files/id1232058109 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/files/id1232058109
  - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
    You didn’t answer the question, what feature can’t you do with the Files App and the ability to save and load files across applications?
    - monkmartinez 1y ago
      How do you know you have the right application to open the file? I have tried at least a dozen apps to open *.stl files... some work, most don't. Some have features I need and don't work opening files. Some are sensitive to stl's that require repair and stop working... and I could go on and on for different file types. The point is; sharing isn't "guaranteed" to work across apps and is generally far, far from "it just works". You have almost zero control over the actual files because there might not be a way to save different formats from the app you are using, or the files app doesn't recognize the extension, or you can't find the folder for the other app, or it doesn't have a user accessible folder, or it will not load files from the "files app"... or <insert 50000 more "what if's here>. The whole things just sucks so, so bad.

majormunky 1y ago

It would be great if they allowed JIT compilation in apps. This would allow things like Dolphin (Wii, Gamecube emulator) to run.