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It looks like the highest tier is 32GB, which really surprised me. I guess we'll have to wait for the M5 Pro / M5 Max for more memory than that. Bad news for a

by simonw 1y ago

It looks like the highest tier is 32GB, which really surprised me. I guess we'll have to wait for the M5 Pro / M5 Max for more memory than that. Bad news for anyone who buys the M5 MacBook Pro as an "AI" machine and finds it can't fit any of the more interesting LLMs!

ortusdux 1y ago
They are running out of ways to differentiate their products.
outside1234 1y ago
Wait what!?!? My MacBook M1 has 64GB of memory for crying out loud.
- masklinn 1y ago
  M1 maxed out at 16 GB, if you have 64 it’s an M1 Max.
- kgwgk 1y ago
  Wait what!?!? You may have a MacBook Pro M1 Max for crying out loud.
xuki 1y ago
It has always been this way. Base M1's max RAM was 16GB, M2/M3's was 24GB, M4's was 32GB.
- Printerisreal 1y ago
  Base m1 was like 4-5 years ago. did we have that much ram with oldest macs too, 30 years ago? 4-5 years at same base RAM is incredibly cheap behaviour from Apple. Some phones are literally close to that RAM now.
  - masklinn 1y ago
    Base M1 had 8GB RAM base and 16 max. Where are you getting “same base ram”?
    - Printerisreal 1y ago
      %100 ram growth in 5 years still very slow and cheap.
      - flemhans 1y ago
        I think 8GB was also what we had in ... 2012? Or am I wrong. Memory has been going so slow.
        wltr 1y ago
        First Retina MacBook Pros 13" were with 8 GB base memory. That was either 2013 or even 2012, so, yeah.
        tracker1 1y ago
        You could (unsupported) run 16gb ram on 2010 rMBP models, back before it was soldered on. Worked great, not to mention swapping the spinning drive for an SSD. At this point, I get the soldered on ram, for better or worse... I do wish at least storage was more approachable.
      - polshaw 1y ago
        Indeed. RAM is the tool of planned obselecence (and profiteering for that matter).
        astrange 1y ago
        Get an ad blocker and then get all the people writing Java/Electron apps to fix their memory usage and you'll be good. Exceptions apply to those running local LLMs.
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by simonw 1y ago

ortusdux 1y ago

They are running out of ways to differentiate their products.

outside1234 1y ago

Wait what!?!? My MacBook M1 has 64GB of memory for crying out loud.

masklinn 1y ago
M1 maxed out at 16 GB, if you have 64 it’s an M1 Max.
kgwgk 1y ago
Wait what!?!? You may have a MacBook Pro M1 Max for crying out loud.

xuki 1y ago

It has always been this way. Base M1's max RAM was 16GB, M2/M3's was 24GB, M4's was 32GB.

Printerisreal 1y ago
Base m1 was like 4-5 years ago. did we have that much ram with oldest macs too, 30 years ago? 4-5 years at same base RAM is incredibly cheap behaviour from Apple. Some phones are literally close to that RAM now.
- masklinn 1y ago
  Base M1 had 8GB RAM base and 16 max. Where are you getting “same base ram”?
  - Printerisreal 1y ago
    %100 ram growth in 5 years still very slow and cheap.
    - flemhans 1y ago
      I think 8GB was also what we had in ... 2012? Or am I wrong. Memory has been going so slow.
      - wltr 1y ago
        First Retina MacBook Pros 13" were with 8 GB base memory. That was either 2013 or even 2012, so, yeah.
      - tracker1 1y ago
        You could (unsupported) run 16gb ram on 2010 rMBP models, back before it was soldered on. Worked great, not to mention swapping the spinning drive for an SSD. At this point, I get the soldered on ram, for better or worse... I do wish at least storage was more approachable.
    - polshaw 1y ago
      Indeed. RAM is the tool of planned obselecence (and profiteering for that matter).
      - astrange 1y ago
        Get an ad blocker and then get all the people writing Java/Electron apps to fix their memory usage and you'll be good. Exceptions apply to those running local LLMs.

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