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Another comment mentions how useful it is because it's integrated with Apple's ecosystem. I mean of course it is...Apple makes it. I do wonder if that person h

Another comment mentions how useful it is because it's integrated with Apple's ecosystem. I mean of course it is...Apple makes it. I do wonder if that person had ever tried any of the myriad of VR device available a decade before beforehand and I do wonder how popular Apple's product would be if other companies were given the opportunity to integrate with the OS on the same level that Apple can (I feel like Apple is breaking anti-competitive laws constantly but nobody really cares about making them open up).

random3 1y ago
OSX is at 16% of the market (Windows is 63%). Exactly how is this breaking anti-competitive laws?
- Lucasoato 1y ago
  A walled garden is a walled garden, no matter the slice of the market you've been able to eat (yet).
- happymellon 1y ago
  Anti-trust does not require someone to have 100% of a market. I also don't think think this breaks anti-trust but percentages doesn't stop market manipulation.
  - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
    There is a huge difference between 100% and 16%.
FumblingBear 1y ago
I think I may be the commenter you're referring to, and yes, I have used many different VR devices over the years. I've owned at least 3 other headsets and used 5. My point in saying the usefulness of it being tied to the ecosystem was more of a negative one than a positive one if it wasn't clear. It is personally useful for me because I have a lot of Apple products at home (though I also have PC and linux stuff too), but I wish my primary use-cases for it were more platform agnostic. I'm also very in support of aggressive anti-trust legislation and it's probably my biggest point of contention with Apple. Despite all that, I still like the Vision Pro and think it's an incredible piece of tech that blows every other headset I've tried out of the water for the things I like to do.
0x457 1y ago
> I do wonder if that person had ever tried any of the myriad of VR device available a decade before beforehand and I do wonder how popular Apple's product would be if other companies were given the opportunity to integrate with the OS on the same level that Apple can Microsoft had and still has this opportunity, they even have game console and much of game developers to bootstrap VR/AR ecosystem. > (I feel like Apple is breaking anti-competitive laws constantly but nobody really cares about making them open up). lol okay

random3 1y ago

OSX is at 16% of the market (Windows is 63%). Exactly how is this breaking anti-competitive laws?

Lucasoato 1y ago
A walled garden is a walled garden, no matter the slice of the market you've been able to eat (yet).
happymellon 1y ago
Anti-trust does not require someone to have 100% of a market. I also don't think think this breaks anti-trust but percentages doesn't stop market manipulation.
- raw_anon_1111 1y ago
  There is a huge difference between 100% and 16%.

FumblingBear 1y ago

I think I may be the commenter you're referring to, and yes, I have used many different VR devices over the years. I've owned at least 3 other headsets and used 5. My point in saying the usefulness of it being tied to the ecosystem was more of a negative one than a positive one if it wasn't clear. It is personally useful for me because I have a lot of Apple products at home (though I also have PC and linux stuff too), but I wish my primary use-cases for it were more platform agnostic. I'm also very in support of aggressive anti-trust legislation and it's probably my biggest point of contention with Apple. Despite all that, I still like the Vision Pro and think it's an incredible piece of tech that blows every other headset I've tried out of the water for the things I like to do.

0x457 1y ago

> I do wonder if that person had ever tried any of the myriad of VR device available a decade before beforehand and I do wonder how popular Apple's product would be if other companies were given the opportunity to integrate with the OS on the same level that Apple can Microsoft had and still has this opportunity, they even have game console and much of game developers to bootstrap VR/AR ecosystem. > (I feel like Apple is breaking anti-competitive laws constantly but nobody really cares about making them open up). lol okay