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The Broadcom WiFi support 320Mhz while N1 is stuck with 160Mhz. There were report of N1 not supporting 4096 QAM as well but I didn't check.
by ksec 1y ago
The Broadcom WiFi support 320Mhz while N1 is stuck with 160Mhz. There were report of N1 not supporting 4096 QAM as well but I didn't check.
- HumblyTossed 1y ago"stuck". An infinitely small percentage of people can take advantage of 320Mhz. It's fine.
- londons_explore 1y agoToday. But in 3 years time it'll be widespread and your Mac will be the one with the sluggish WiFi connection that jams up the airwaves for all other devices too.
- shwaj 1y agoHow does it “jam up the airwaves” if its operating at a different frequency than the devices you say it will be jamming?
- landl0rd 1y agoIt really won't, and there will be a ton of devices "jamming up" the airwaves. In most places the backhaul isn't fast enough for anyone to get any use for 320MHz channels beyond maybe very large LAN file transfers which are for some reason happening over WiFi?
- fragmede 1y agoThankfully, there has been nothing new to use computers for since 2022. Definitely no new technology that involves downloading different 10+ Gib large files to test with, and users couldn't possibly conceive of a NAS, nevermind owning one because Netflix has never removed shows while people are watching them, breaking an assumed promise by users. ISP speeds are never ever going to improve either. Everyone knows that!
- MrAlex94 1y agoDoes it? If it’s the same WiFi chip used in other M4 Mac’s then it’s still limited to 160MHz: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/deployment/dep268652e6c/1/web/1.0 https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/deployment/dep268652e6...
- ksec 1y agoMy word I thought the Broadcom ones were better. Thanks for checking.
- t-3 1y agoI doubt the number of people in both "has no neighbors" and "owns Apple hardware" camps are significant at all.
- fragmede 1y agoPoe's law?
- MrBuddyCasino 1y agoI don’t think 4096 QAM is realistic anyway, except if your router is 10 cm away from your laptop.
- ExoticPearTree 1y ago> The Broadcom WiFi support 320Mhz while N1 is stuck with 160Mhz. I was at a Wi-Fi vendor presentation a while back and they said that 160 Mhz is pretty improbable unless you're leaving alone and no wireless networks around you. And 320 Mhz even less so. In real life probably the best you can get is 80 Mhz in a really good wireless environment.
- amluto 1y agoI would believe that MLO or similar features could make it a bit more likely that large amounts of bandwidth would be useful, as it allows using discontiguous frequencies. WiFi does currently get anywhere near the bandwidth that these huge channels advertise in realistic environments.
- shadowpho 1y agoFor which band? I run 160/160 on 5/6ghz and it’s nice. They are short range enough to work. For 2.4 yeah 20mhz only
- greg5green 1y agoFor 5ghz, that's a pretty unusual. You need to be somewhere where DFS isn't an issue to even get 160mhz. For 6ghz? Yeah, not uncommon.
- mrtesthah 1y agoIndeed, in any relatively dense setting no one should even think about using channels that wide. Think about the original problem with 2.4ghz 802.11b/g: there were only three non-overlapping channels, so you had interference no matter where you went. Why would we want to return to that hell?
- zdw 1y agoFrom Apple's support docs: https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/wi-fi-ethernet-specifications-apple-devices-dep268652e6c/web https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/wi-fi-ethernet-sp... No devices support 320Mhz bandwidths, and only supports 160Mhz on 6GHz band on MacBooks and iPads. Some iPhones support 160Mhz on 5GHz as well.
- Avamander 1y agoChannel width is not the only thing that determines the usability or quality of a chipset though. Reducing Broadcom's influence over the WiFi ecosystem alone would be a large benefit.