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I got a lot less snarky in my responses to scam text messages when I learned about the forced labor aspect. I just block the sender and go on, versus trying to

I got a lot less snarky in my responses to scam text messages when I learned about the forced labor aspect. I just block the sender and go on, versus trying to bait them and waste their time.

stuffn 1y ago
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- EvanAnderson 1y ago
  I don't want somebody being held against their will and forced to do a "job" to be beaten because I wanted to fuck with a scammer.
- otterley 1y ago
  The freer you are, the easier it is to stand on principle. When your life or your freedom is at stake, you will do things that you never thought possible. We are genetically programmed to preserve our own lives, as well as those of our loved ones, at just about any cost.
- jasomill 1y ago
  The 24 Nuremburg defendents all held high level leadership positions and were hardly representative of the rank and file "just doing their jobs".
- lawlessone 1y ago
  >I personally have no sympathy for these people whether or not they're victims. You get a choice in life to stand on your morals or allow them to be eroded. If you choose to do something you know is wrong then you are no better than any other person who knowingly commits such acts. That's nice, but if someone points a weapon at me and tells me to rob people over the phone i'll probably do it.
  - tomjakubowski 1y ago
    In many US jurisdictions you'd likely be able to argue a duress defense in this case. https://www.egattorneys.com/duress-defense https://www.egattorneys.com/duress-defense
- StackRanker3000 1y ago
  To what extreme do you take this? Would you rather be killed than scam someone? That’s a principled stance if so, but I’d personally rather you try to scam me if the alternative is you being beaten up, or worse > I personally have no sympathy for these people whether or not they're victims That’s an interesting moral philosophy. Do you think that no one ever deserves sympathy for something they were forced to do? If a Mexican drug cartel threatens to kill someone’s entire family if they don’t perform a reprehensible act, no one should feel the tiniest bit bad for them if they don’t stand on principle? I assume you don’t actually think that, but when you hear that people are being kidnapped, trafficked abroad, and forced to work in clandestine Burmese call centers, what do you think their options are?

I got a lot less snarky in my responses to scam text messages when I learned about the forced labor aspect. I just block the sender and go on, versus trying to bait them and waste their time.

stuffn 1y ago

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EvanAnderson 1y ago
I don't want somebody being held against their will and forced to do a "job" to be beaten because I wanted to fuck with a scammer.
otterley 1y ago
The freer you are, the easier it is to stand on principle. When your life or your freedom is at stake, you will do things that you never thought possible. We are genetically programmed to preserve our own lives, as well as those of our loved ones, at just about any cost.
jasomill 1y ago
The 24 Nuremburg defendents all held high level leadership positions and were hardly representative of the rank and file "just doing their jobs".
lawlessone 1y ago
>I personally have no sympathy for these people whether or not they're victims. You get a choice in life to stand on your morals or allow them to be eroded. If you choose to do something you know is wrong then you are no better than any other person who knowingly commits such acts. That's nice, but if someone points a weapon at me and tells me to rob people over the phone i'll probably do it.
- tomjakubowski 1y ago
  In many US jurisdictions you'd likely be able to argue a duress defense in this case. https://www.egattorneys.com/duress-defense https://www.egattorneys.com/duress-defense
StackRanker3000 1y ago
To what extreme do you take this? Would you rather be killed than scam someone? That’s a principled stance if so, but I’d personally rather you try to scam me if the alternative is you being beaten up, or worse > I personally have no sympathy for these people whether or not they're victims That’s an interesting moral philosophy. Do you think that no one ever deserves sympathy for something they were forced to do? If a Mexican drug cartel threatens to kill someone’s entire family if they don’t perform a reprehensible act, no one should feel the tiniest bit bad for them if they don’t stand on principle? I assume you don’t actually think that, but when you hear that people are being kidnapped, trafficked abroad, and forced to work in clandestine Burmese call centers, what do you think their options are?