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Khesrau Behroz did an amazing podcast about those operations (in German though) [0]. Basically when there was a crack down on providers of illegal sports bettin

Khesrau Behroz did an amazing podcast about those operations (in German though) [0]. Basically when there was a crack down on providers of illegal sports betting in China, they went abroad and diversified. The betting operation is used to launder the money from those scam operations and betting is still immensely popular in China and done via VPN. Those East Asian sport betting providers are sponsors of many Champions League clubs so their (often changing) names get know the gamblers in China watching the games. So yea, there are massive amounts of money involved. [0] https://www.rbb-online.de/legion/ https://www.rbb-online.de/legion/

cjonas 1y ago
There's an interesting "Search Engine" podcast (in English)[0]. Apparently a lot of the people doing the actual scamming are human trafficked and being held in compounds against their will. [0]https://www.searchengine.show/whos-behind-these-scammy-text-messages-weve-all-been-getting/ https://www.searchengine.show/whos-behind-these-scammy-text-...
- ChrisMarshallNY 1y ago
  From what I understand, a number of them are Chinese nationals. I suspect that taking Chinese slaves might not be a great idea. China tends to carry a big stick; especially in that region. Wouldn't surprise me, if the DOJ had some "under-the-table" help from Chinese sources, but not in any way that anyone can prove. If you don't want to sign up for a podcast, John Oliver did a fairly decent bit about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLPpl2ISKTg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLPpl2ISKTg
  - goatsi 1y ago
    China permitted/sponsored rebels to seize a decent chunk of the Myanmar side of the Chinese/Myanmar border after a number of Chinese citizens (allegedly including some undercover Chinese police) were killed in a scam compound there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_1027 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_1027
  - fragmede 1y ago
    Except it seems it's Chinese Nationals running the operations in the first place, who undoubtedly have connections to the CCP to tacitly look the other way.

cjonas 1y ago

There's an interesting "Search Engine" podcast (in English)[0]. Apparently a lot of the people doing the actual scamming are human trafficked and being held in compounds against their will. [0]https://www.searchengine.show/whos-behind-these-scammy-text-messages-weve-all-been-getting/ https://www.searchengine.show/whos-behind-these-scammy-text-...

ChrisMarshallNY 1y ago
From what I understand, a number of them are Chinese nationals. I suspect that taking Chinese slaves might not be a great idea. China tends to carry a big stick; especially in that region. Wouldn't surprise me, if the DOJ had some "under-the-table" help from Chinese sources, but not in any way that anyone can prove. If you don't want to sign up for a podcast, John Oliver did a fairly decent bit about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLPpl2ISKTg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLPpl2ISKTg
- goatsi 1y ago
  China permitted/sponsored rebels to seize a decent chunk of the Myanmar side of the Chinese/Myanmar border after a number of Chinese citizens (allegedly including some undercover Chinese police) were killed in a scam compound there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_1027 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_1027
- fragmede 1y ago
  Except it seems it's Chinese Nationals running the operations in the first place, who undoubtedly have connections to the CCP to tacitly look the other way.