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Why are all commenters on HN ignoring the only smartphone running an FSF-endorsed [0] operating system, Librem 5, and only list everything else? I just can't ge

Why are all commenters on HN ignoring the only smartphone running an FSF-endorsed [0] operating system, Librem 5, and only list everything else? I just can't get it. Even the FSF themselves didn't mention it or provided any reasoning for choosing a Google-controlled operating system - despite recommending Librem 5 earlier [1]. What am I missing? [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25504641 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25504641 [1] https://www.fsf.org/givingguide/v11/ https://www.fsf.org/givingguide/v11/

rjsw 1y ago
We know that you will post something about Librem 5 so there is no need for anyone else to do it.
- gessha 1y ago
  It’s amusing to me that whenever I see a submission about Linux phones, I start looking for the obligatory @fsflover comment. No bad feelings, fsflover, keep up the good work. I also can’t wait to post on here from a libre phone.
tyler-dot-earth 1y ago
as someone who has followed this phone for a long time, it has had an image problem - fairly old hardware, early software/buggy, and bad customer service experiences. i'm still pretty tempted to play with one.
- fsflover 1y ago
  > fairly old hardware How new do you think the chosen Android hardware will be at the end of the promised reverse-engineering efforts? See also: https://puri.sm/posts/the-danger-of-focusing-on-specs/ https://puri.sm/posts/the-danger-of-focusing-on-specs/ It's fast enough and stable enough to serve me (and many other people, including in the HN comments) as a daily driver. > bad customer service experiences This depends: Purism is a quite small company, and sometimes they take time to reply, but the community at forums.puri.sm has been really helpful. I'm a happy user.
- fsflover 1y ago
  We are talking about the FSF here, not Apple. The former concentrate on the user freedom, not modern hardware or polished experience (which is a good thing).

rjsw 1y ago

We know that you will post something about Librem 5 so there is no need for anyone else to do it.

gessha 1y ago
It’s amusing to me that whenever I see a submission about Linux phones, I start looking for the obligatory @fsflover comment. No bad feelings, fsflover, keep up the good work. I also can’t wait to post on here from a libre phone.

tyler-dot-earth 1y ago

as someone who has followed this phone for a long time, it has had an image problem - fairly old hardware, early software/buggy, and bad customer service experiences. i'm still pretty tempted to play with one.

fsflover 1y ago
> fairly old hardware How new do you think the chosen Android hardware will be at the end of the promised reverse-engineering efforts? See also: https://puri.sm/posts/the-danger-of-focusing-on-specs/ https://puri.sm/posts/the-danger-of-focusing-on-specs/ It's fast enough and stable enough to serve me (and many other people, including in the HN comments) as a daily driver. > bad customer service experiences This depends: Purism is a quite small company, and sometimes they take time to reply, but the community at forums.puri.sm has been really helpful. I'm a happy user.
fsflover 1y ago
We are talking about the FSF here, not Apple. The former concentrate on the user freedom, not modern hardware or polished experience (which is a good thing).