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I'm looking at the bar chart 'causes of death in 2023' and seeing 7.8% classified as accidents. In the UK the figure appears to be much lower if I have underst

by 2b3a51 1y ago

I'm looking at the bar chart 'causes of death in 2023' and seeing 7.8% classified as accidents. In the UK the figure appears to be much lower if I have understood the ONS report correctly (link to spreadsheet top right). I'm wondering at the disparity and where it comes from. Real or an artifact of definitions in use when certifying deaths? https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/accidentdeathsintheuk2019to2022 https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/fre... (scroll down in the spreadsheet for the figures for all people in England and Wales, the first table is non-residents only)

nikanj 1y ago
The average American adult travels more than 40 miles per day https://www.replicahq.com/post/the-average-american-adult-travels-more-than-40-miles-per-day-in-2023-see-how-residents-in-your-county-rank https://www.replicahq.com/post/the-average-american-adult-tr... In the UK, an average car travels 19 miles per day https://www.nimblefins.co.uk/cheap-car-insurance/average-car-mileage-uk https://www.nimblefins.co.uk/cheap-car-insurance/average-car... Traffic accidents dominate the fatal accidents category
rsynnott 1y ago
The UK has 2.6 road deaths per 100k people per year. The US has 14.2. The discrepancy is probably mostly driven by this (though the US does also have far lower workplace safety standards). Part of this is that Americans drive far greater distances, but even adjusted for distance, the US has about twice the deaths per km.
- fransje26 1y ago
  For posterity: - The UK had an estimated death rate of 4.7 road fatalities per billion vehicle miles travelled in 2024 [1] - The US had an estimated 12.6 road fatalities per billion vehicle miles travelled in 2023 [2] [1] https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/reported-road-casualties-great-britain-annual-report-2024/reported-road-casualties-great-britain-annual-report-2024 https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/reported-road-casua... [2] https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/813705 https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/...
  - rsynnott 1y ago
    Oh, huh, that's actually a bigger discrepancy than the stats I was looking at (from 2022 for the UK and 2021 for the US, from wikipedia). Looks like the UK is down modestly since then, the US up modestly.

by 2b3a51 1y ago

nikanj 1y ago

The average American adult travels more than 40 miles per day https://www.replicahq.com/post/the-average-american-adult-travels-more-than-40-miles-per-day-in-2023-see-how-residents-in-your-county-rank https://www.replicahq.com/post/the-average-american-adult-tr... In the UK, an average car travels 19 miles per day https://www.nimblefins.co.uk/cheap-car-insurance/average-car-mileage-uk https://www.nimblefins.co.uk/cheap-car-insurance/average-car... Traffic accidents dominate the fatal accidents category

rsynnott 1y ago

The UK has 2.6 road deaths per 100k people per year. The US has 14.2. The discrepancy is probably mostly driven by this (though the US does also have far lower workplace safety standards). Part of this is that Americans drive far greater distances, but even adjusted for distance, the US has about twice the deaths per km.

fransje26 1y ago
For posterity: - The UK had an estimated death rate of 4.7 road fatalities per billion vehicle miles travelled in 2024 [1] - The US had an estimated 12.6 road fatalities per billion vehicle miles travelled in 2023 [2] [1] https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/reported-road-casualties-great-britain-annual-report-2024/reported-road-casualties-great-britain-annual-report-2024 https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/reported-road-casua... [2] https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/813705 https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/...
- rsynnott 1y ago
  Oh, huh, that's actually a bigger discrepancy than the stats I was looking at (from 2022 for the UK and 2021 for the US, from wikipedia). Looks like the UK is down modestly since then, the US up modestly.