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No wonder Detroit doesn't want sub-$10K chinese EVs in the US 8-/
by johnea 1y ago
No wonder Detroit doesn't want sub-$10K chinese EVs in the US 8-/
- oblio 1y agoThey don't even need to be Chinese EVs. Europeam and Asian brands are selling €15k small cars in Europe that pass European safety standards, comparable to the US ones. My guess is that it is another form if hidden predictionism, even though Americans desperately need cheap cars, just like they need cheap apartments.
- WillPostForFood 1y agoWhat European car can you get for €15k?
- Xylakant 1y agoPlenty: https://www.meinauto.de/lp-neuwagen-unter-15000-euro https://www.meinauto.de/lp-neuwagen-unter-15000-euro Depends on where you live, obviously, but I used to own a C3 (on the list) and it was a perfectly usable car.
- WillPostForFood 1y agoWhen I went to the site you listed, and checked the C3, it looked like the purchase price was much more than 15k. List price was 19k, and with Meinauto discount, 17.6k.
- Xylakant 1y agoFor me it offers 15000 plus transport to the dealership for the C3, but there’s plenty of other cars for less money on the list. Also: German prices, German taxes - the pricing is likely entirely different elsewhere.
- oblio 1y agohttps://www.dacia.ro/gama-dacia/logan.html https://www.dacia.ro/gama-dacia/logan.html https://www.dacia.ro/gama-dacia/sandero.html https://www.dacia.ro/gama-dacia/sandero.html https://www.dacia.ro/gama-dacia/sandero-stepway.html https://www.dacia.ro/gama-dacia/sandero-stepway.html https://www.whatcar.com/best/the-10-cheapest-new-cars-you-can-buy-reviewed-and-rated/n25148 https://www.whatcar.com/best/the-10-cheapest-new-cars-you-ca... The Dacia Logan and Sandero Stepway, especially, are quite usable as family cars.
- pfannkuchen 1y agoRepeal the environmental and labor regulations here and we can let those in no problem.
- thorncorona 1y agoIs it so hard to acknowledge that China is better at manufacturing?
- RandallBrown 1y agoBoth reasons can be correct
- aswanson 1y agoDoesn't Europe allow Chinese vehicles in their market? At least they admit it.
- pfannkuchen 1y agoIt’s not hard to be “better” when your competitor is wearing a strait jacket. We have no idea if they are better at it, the last time there was a level playing field they weren’t a developed country.
- unethical_ban 1y agoThe existence of environmental protection is fine, the existence of CAFE fscked up perverse incentives is a problem. Having some labor quality of life concerns, making sure we aren't being undercut as a national security issue is fine. Having the chicken tax, destroying investments in solar energy and electric grids and EV charging is not. We have bad manufacturing incentives in this country, our government wants the US to fail at solar, and the Chinese are playing to win.
- pfannkuchen 1y agoIf you have environmental protection and they don’t, your manufacturing is going to be more complicated than theirs, and therefore more expensive. It’s that simple. We can also pressure them to enact equivalent environmental protections and refuse to trade otherwise, which would be great for the planet. Checking compliance would be difficult though, lying is culturally treated differently in different places.