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A lot of discussion in this thread about the findings for Huel (I was concerned because I consume Huel daily): https://www.reddit.com/r/Huel/comments/1o6j62j/c

by mfro 1y ago

A lot of discussion in this thread about the findings for Huel (I was concerned because I consume Huel daily): https://www.reddit.com/r/Huel/comments/1o6j62j/consumer_reports_lead_findings_about_huel_black/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Huel/comments/1o6j62j/consumer_repo... Many commentors point out that CR's guideline for daily intake is arbitrary and well under the FDA guideline. I think it would be good to take this with a grain of salt and will be interested to see the response from Huel.

0cf8612b2e1e 1y ago
There is no good level for lead exposure. It is always bad. If anything, I think the FDA should make their limits more strict. Yet the FDA is slow moving and susceptible to a lot of industry influence that wants no regulation.
- mfro 1y ago
  I think we can all agree on that, but it still seems like CR's article is a bit reactionary considering it is normal to find some levels of lead in most FDA regulated foodstuffs?
- dzhiurgis 1y ago
  Looking at Bryan Johnson's videos it seems just about everything is contaminated. I'd speculate we'll need another thousand years for this to change.
  - Analemma_ 1y ago
    Plant-based products still have non-zero contamination because lead is still allowed in things like avgas, so we keep putting more in the environment. In theory, leaded avgas is finally starting to get phased out but this has been an excruciatingly slow process. The good news is that if and when we eliminate lead totally from its remaining uses, we won't have to wait too long to see the benefits. IIRC people's blood lead levels started dropping pretty quickly after we phased out leaded gasoline.
    - Gigachad 1y ago
      How are we going to remove all the existing contamination? Soil lead levels in old residential areas are still high from when leaded gas was in use. To the point where people with chickens or vegetable gardens at home need to be testing for lead.
      - dzhiurgis 1y ago
        Obvious answer is hydroponics
more_corn 1y ago
Are you really trying to suggest that consumer reports, the most trustworthy consumer advocate of all time is setting unreasonable safety standards? The FDA is known to set acceptable levels too high especially for lead. The scientific consensus is clear, there is no amount of lead that is safe. If you’re regularly consuming products that contain lead you should stop immediately. If this suggestion makes you frustrated, angry or otherwise disturbed, perhaps you’re experiencing symptoms of lead exposure.
- mfro 1y ago
  As I said in an above comment, nobody with sense is going to claim lead is healthy. I’m just saying CR could just as easily come up with the same findings for other foodstuffs. Obviously change needs to happen but this doesn’t seem like it will do any good.
- loeg 1y ago
  Yes, Consumer Reports has set an unreasonable standard here and reported on it in an alarmist way that completely ignores context.

by mfro 1y ago

0cf8612b2e1e 1y ago

There is no good level for lead exposure. It is always bad. If anything, I think the FDA should make their limits more strict. Yet the FDA is slow moving and susceptible to a lot of industry influence that wants no regulation.

mfro 1y ago
I think we can all agree on that, but it still seems like CR's article is a bit reactionary considering it is normal to find some levels of lead in most FDA regulated foodstuffs?
dzhiurgis 1y ago
Looking at Bryan Johnson's videos it seems just about everything is contaminated. I'd speculate we'll need another thousand years for this to change.
- Analemma_ 1y ago
  Plant-based products still have non-zero contamination because lead is still allowed in things like avgas, so we keep putting more in the environment. In theory, leaded avgas is finally starting to get phased out but this has been an excruciatingly slow process. The good news is that if and when we eliminate lead totally from its remaining uses, we won't have to wait too long to see the benefits. IIRC people's blood lead levels started dropping pretty quickly after we phased out leaded gasoline.
  - Gigachad 1y ago
    How are we going to remove all the existing contamination? Soil lead levels in old residential areas are still high from when leaded gas was in use. To the point where people with chickens or vegetable gardens at home need to be testing for lead.
    - dzhiurgis 1y ago
      Obvious answer is hydroponics

more_corn 1y ago

Are you really trying to suggest that consumer reports, the most trustworthy consumer advocate of all time is setting unreasonable safety standards? The FDA is known to set acceptable levels too high especially for lead. The scientific consensus is clear, there is no amount of lead that is safe. If you’re regularly consuming products that contain lead you should stop immediately. If this suggestion makes you frustrated, angry or otherwise disturbed, perhaps you’re experiencing symptoms of lead exposure.

mfro 1y ago
As I said in an above comment, nobody with sense is going to claim lead is healthy. I’m just saying CR could just as easily come up with the same findings for other foodstuffs. Obviously change needs to happen but this doesn’t seem like it will do any good.
loeg 1y ago
Yes, Consumer Reports has set an unreasonable standard here and reported on it in an alarmist way that completely ignores context.