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But this is why using the AI in the production of (almost) deterministic systems makes so much sense, including saving on execution costs. ISTR someone else ro

But this is why using the AI in the production of (almost) deterministic systems makes so much sense, including saving on execution costs. ISTR someone else round here observing how much more effective it is to ask these things to write short scripts that perform a task than doing the task themselves, and this is my experience as well. If/when AI actually gets much better it will be the boss that has the problem. This is one of the things that baffles me about the managerial globalists - they don't seem to appreciate that a suitably advanced AI will point the finger at them for inefficiency much more so than at the plebs, for which it will have a use for quite a while.

pixl97 1y ago
>that baffles me about the managerial globalists It's no different from those on HN that yell loudly that unions for programmers are the worst idea ever... "it will never be me" is all they can think, then they are protesting in the streets when it is them, but only after the hypocrisy of mocking those in the street protesting today.
- hn_acc1 1y ago
  Agreed. My dad was raised strongly fundamentalist, and in North America, that included (back then) strongly resisting unions. In hindsight, I've come to realize that my parent's weren't maybe even of average intelligence, and definitely of above-average gullibility. Unionized software engineers would solve a lot of the "we always work 80 hour weeks for 2 months at the end of a release cycle" problems, the "you're too old, you're fired" issues, the "new hires seems to always make more than the 5/10+ year veterans", etc. Sure, you wouldn't have a few getting super rich, but it would also make it a lot easier for "unionized" action against companies like Meta, Google, Oracle, etc. Right now, the employers hold like 100x the power of the employees in tech. Just look at how much any kind of resistance to fascism has dwindled after FAANG had another round of layoffs..
  - fidotron 1y ago
    Software "engineers" totally miss a key thing in other engineering professions as well, which is organizations to enforce some pretense of ethical standards to help push back against requests from product. Those orgs often look a lot like unions.
hn_acc1 1y ago
A bunch of short scripts doesn't easily lead to a large-scale robust software platform. I guess if managers get canned, it'll be just marketing types left?

pixl97 1y ago

>that baffles me about the managerial globalists It's no different from those on HN that yell loudly that unions for programmers are the worst idea ever... "it will never be me" is all they can think, then they are protesting in the streets when it is them, but only after the hypocrisy of mocking those in the street protesting today.

hn_acc1 1y ago
Agreed. My dad was raised strongly fundamentalist, and in North America, that included (back then) strongly resisting unions. In hindsight, I've come to realize that my parent's weren't maybe even of average intelligence, and definitely of above-average gullibility. Unionized software engineers would solve a lot of the "we always work 80 hour weeks for 2 months at the end of a release cycle" problems, the "you're too old, you're fired" issues, the "new hires seems to always make more than the 5/10+ year veterans", etc. Sure, you wouldn't have a few getting super rich, but it would also make it a lot easier for "unionized" action against companies like Meta, Google, Oracle, etc. Right now, the employers hold like 100x the power of the employees in tech. Just look at how much any kind of resistance to fascism has dwindled after FAANG had another round of layoffs..
- fidotron 1y ago
  Software "engineers" totally miss a key thing in other engineering professions as well, which is organizations to enforce some pretense of ethical standards to help push back against requests from product. Those orgs often look a lot like unions.

hn_acc1 1y ago

A bunch of short scripts doesn't easily lead to a large-scale robust software platform. I guess if managers get canned, it'll be just marketing types left?