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> Not good. These tools (from search engines to AI) are increasingly part of our brains, and we should have confidentiality in using them. Don't expect that fr
by VHRanger 1y ago
> Not good. These tools (from search engines to AI) are increasingly part of our brains, and we should have confidentiality in using them.
Don't expect that from products with advertising business models
- ChadNauseam 1y agoOpenAI and Anthropic do not have advertising business models
- bigyabai 1y agoIf you're not the customer, you're most likely the product.
- bbor 1y agoI love the saying, but there's something of an exception here. Both companies very openly have singularity business models.
- bigyabai 1y agoBusiness models make money. If your business model is theoretical, we call that "research" instead. Real research is done on prior art. We research things because prior studies tell us that they are feasible, otherwise you are wasting valuable time on a snipe chase. There is no reproducible or substantial evidence that AGI or singularities exist. It is another Big Tech marketing lie, no different from the reneged "don't be evil" or "privacy is a human right" mottos.
- bbor 1y agoThanks for the interesting response! I disagree on a few points, though: If your business model is theoretical, we call that "research" instead. Are/were Uber and Lyft "research" companies, then? Is Reddit a research company? Edison Electric? There is no reproducible or substantial evidence that AGI or singularities exist There is also no substantial evidence that the sun will rise tomorrow, that climate change will continue, or a million other things that are critical to science. Physical science is empirical in that it inherently requires physical experiments, but that is not the only cognitive tool in play by a long shot. Regardless: tell them, not me! I'm just reporting what I'd say is an objective fact: they are planning based on scientific predictions of an intelligence explosion -- at least a soft/cybernetic one if not a scarily-fast/purely-digital one. It is another Big Tech marketing lie I think there's a single fact that counters this common sentiment: there is no way in hell that they'd break ground on the largest private infrastructure projects in human history as a marketing stunt. Companies are woefully-shortsighted these days, but that would be another level of foolishness altogether. They very well may be wrong of course, but I think you're doing yourself a disservice to assume they're lying about it.
- bigyabai 1y ago> There is also no substantial evidence that the sun will rise tomorrow You are wasting my time with facetious arguments. There is no point having a rational discussion about the future potential of AI if we cannot take things like reality for granted. If you want to argue in defense of AI, do it. Pointing to authority is one third of rhetoric, the other two thirds are emotional investment and logical coherence. If you don't have real proof that AGI exists, you're trying to make a point with emotions that people don't empathize with and authority that isn't authoritative. Cite sources, dammit.
- hitarpetar 1y ago> There is also no substantial evidence that the sun will rise tomorrow the boosters are getting desperate
- bbor 1y agoIt’s just basic epistemology… like literally day one stuff. Too advanced for HN, I guess :(
- nemomarx 1y agoyet, but surely they will move that way over time?
- achierius 1y agoOpenAI is clearly moving in that direction, look at their recent verbiage and hiring.
- scotty79 1y agoyet
- micromacrofoot 1y agoname a similar sized tech company that hasn't