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> Thompson is wrong, and saying anything to try and make things go away, which is extremely disappointing, but there's still no evidence of the protestors being
by kcplate 1y ago
> Thompson is wrong, and saying anything to try and make things go away, which is extremely disappointing, but there's still no evidence of the protestors being violent. Nearly all charges against all protestors have been dropped in court, and the extent of "violent" charges are one count of "assault of an officer" because a geriatric air force vet allowed his arm to brush an agent.
This is “spin” to minimize impact, just like I said. You are providing propaganda here.
> Look, i asked you a simple question. "Is there evidence that parts of Portland are being burned to the ground, as the administration claims." The answer is very obviously no.
I never made that claim, not sure why you want to keep going back to that. As I stated clearly above, I regarded those claims as an exaggeration, and even sarcastically referred to it in my comment. You choosing to apply this to me is just another example of trying to obfuscate the point of my original comment.
> I'm glad you've decided both are equally dishonest and similarly motivated.
I definitely stand by that. Yes, I think the government is being dishonest and think that has been quite obvious in here with two commenters I have interacted with—You just provided spin like I said you would (but at least you acknowledged what the Mayor actually said, points for that). You have tried to obfuscated my point, attributed opinions to me, and suggested I have said things I haven’t said. That’s dishonest. Another commenter outright lied and claimed the mayor never said what she said, despite the quote. I literally had to post the Mayor’s freaking statement on the city’s website to counter that BS they were spewing.
- queenkjuul 1y agoNo, you simply have provided zero evidence of protestors being violent. You have one statement from one official accusing them of violence, and not one piece of evidence anywhere showing them actually being violent, in either Chicago or Portland. You're doing what the president is doing: making statements entirely detached from reality without evidence.
- kcplate 1y agoIf what you say is true you should have no problem supporting 24/7 webcams streaming direct to the internet pointing right at the areas in question. Then you can provide all the proof you need to discount the government narrative and prove yours. I look forward to seeing those streams. Good luck!
- queenkjuul 1y agoShow me literally one piece of evidence of protestors being violent lmao.
- kcplate 1y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dF9mAhcjPs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dF9mAhcjPs Throwing rocks isn’t violent? Since when?
- queenkjuul 1y agoA cop getting hit by a water bottle in Chicago is sufficient evidence for you to avoid the city of Portland?
- kcplate 1y agoWell you specifically asked for evidence of violence in Chicago and you received it. Now you try to minimize it and deflect—just like I said you would. So predictable. The propaganda around this topic is definitely a two sided coin. Thanks for demonstrating it for all to see.
- tptacek 1y agoI don't think you're in a good rhetorical position to high-horse anything; to me, your horse died on the hill of "raised fist means violence" analysis of Katrina Thompson's statement about the Broadview protests. Neither of you are going to convince each other of anything, so I'm not sure what's gained by handwavy argument and generalizations at this point. Facts have some utility, but the analysis is just tedious.
- kcplate 1y agoMy horse is still very alive, it just walked away from your ridiculous spin. You definitely didn’t convince me I was wrong or should even give it another thought, you only further convinced me that I am right about the minimization and spin that people will put on the topic. BTW a few comments above this one the other commenter mentioned that the mayor was “wrong”. So even they aren’t buying your spin of her comments, and they are apparently aligned with you in every other way.