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Congrats. You are doing exactly what I said above. I provided a link to a news story from a local PBS affiliate, pulled a direct quote from that very story wh
by kcplate 1y ago
Congrats. You are doing exactly what I said above. I provided a link to a news story from a local PBS affiliate, pulled a direct quote from that very story which it attributed to the mayor and you either didn’t read the source story I posted, or want to claim it is inaccurate because of some special proximity knowledge you have. So be it. However, since you want to call the source into question, here is the exact statement from the Broadview mayor on the Broadview government site. That is the full statement that the story quoted—The quote I posted that you claimed was never said because it was never mentioned in Facebook posts (Wow). The PBS affiliate story was accurate, the quote was accurate to the Mayor’s statement, and frankly, you were wrong. Perhaps you should “Please be more careful”, right?
From the Broadview Statement:
“There are too many protesters abusing their right to protest. Too many are raising their fists rather than their voices, creating chaos at the expense of the people who call Broadview home.”
https://broadview-il.gov/reference/press-releases/press-release-broadview-shrinks-protest-safety-zones/ https://broadview-il.gov/reference/press-releases/press-rele...
Feel free to dispute this all you want, feel free to diminish what it says, but know that you are doing exactly what I said…propagandizing from the other side of the coin.
- tptacek 1y agoThe "abuse of the right to protest" has nothing to do with violence from protesters, which is a detail that you've conjured up yourself. As I've said, I'm intimately aware of the details of what's happening at the Broadview site, in part because I do local politics and live right here. I don't expect you to concede this point --- this is a message board, after all. But I have firsthand knowledge of what you're talking about as well as familiarity with your sources and am continuing to comment to make a record of the inaccuracy of your claim.
- kcplate 1y agoNothing for me to concede. You are arguing against the Mayor’s words and meaning, not mine. I am taking them at face value within the context of the entire statement. > The "abuse of the right to protest" has nothing to do with violence from protesters, which is a detail that you've conjured up yourself. It’s kind of telling how you chose this phrase to suggest that I have “conjured” up apparent violence. Context counts. Prior to that “abuse” sentence, she said this: “There were 15 arrests, and 10 of those were around the age of my own daughter. As a mother and a mayor, I am mad.” Then it’s the next one after the abuse statement makes the difference and alludes to violence: “Too many are raising their fists rather than their voices, creating chaos at the expense of the people who call Broadview home”. (The emphasis is mine) That provides further context. From my perspective on the outside looking in, she appears to be suggesting that things are escalating and she appears to be placing some of that blame on the protesters. Maybe her statement was inarticulate. Maybe it was total BS. Maybe she is playing to both sides. Maybe it reflects reality. Whatever the case may be its what is out in the news now and on its face, it doesn’t feel like things are as peaceful as the mayor would prefer them to be. Good for her trying to de-escalate. Frankly, I am just happy it’s not happening in my community.