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The Department of Defense is the legal name. The Department of War is a propaganda nickname.

by dragonwriter 1y ago

nrds 1y ago
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- dragonwriter 1y ago
  The Gulf of Mexico/America/etc. is not a creation of law, the Department of Defense is.
- asacrowflies 1y ago
  Far as I can tell that law has no real jurisdiction over that piece of geography. To steelman you stupid point... Only Americans should be calling it that lol.
- wasabi991011 1y ago
  Gulf of Mexico is the common name, used extensively by all types of people since the 17th century. The idea that this is a propaganda nickname is so absurd that I can only consider it a bold faced lie.
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xethos 1y ago
You've got that backwards. Originally stemming from the War Department, the "Department of Defense" is a cuddly name so Americans can feel better about, and potentially ignore, being warmongers.
- dragonwriter 1y ago
  > You've got that backwards No, I don't. The legal name of the Department headed by Pete Hegseth is the Department of Defense, and it is the only name that entity has ever had. > Originally stemming from the War Department This a somewhat popular myth, resurgent recently because it is expressly part of the narrative of the Trump Administration and therefore the MAGA cult, but its false. The Department of War is the predecessor of the modern Departments of the Army and Air Force which it was split into, not the Department of Defense, which was created ex nihilo to be placed over the existing military departments at the same time one of those department s was being split. Originally, the US (following the British model, which also persisted until just after WWII) had two separate defense edtablishments, the Department of War (responsible for the Army) and Department of the Navy (responsible for the Navy and Marine Corps); after WWII a combined defense establishment was created above those, but at the same time it was created, the Air Force was split off from the Army and the War Department was split into the Department of the Army and the Department of the Air Force, which is why the Department of Defense is the only cabinet level department with subordinate entities also called “departments”.
bigbadfeline 1y ago
Are you saying this illegal? https://www.war.gov https://www.war.gov
- dragonwriter 1y ago
  I am saying that it is not the legal name of the Department. As far as I know its not illegal to refer to it as the Department of War, the Fighty Bunch, or Bob, but it is weirdly unprofessional to just start calling givernment departments by random made up names that aren’t what they are specified as in law.
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The Department of Defense is the legal name. The Department of War is a propaganda nickname.

nrds 1y ago

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dragonwriter 1y ago
The Gulf of Mexico/America/etc. is not a creation of law, the Department of Defense is.
asacrowflies 1y ago
Far as I can tell that law has no real jurisdiction over that piece of geography. To steelman you stupid point... Only Americans should be calling it that lol.
wasabi991011 1y ago
Gulf of Mexico is the common name, used extensively by all types of people since the 17th century. The idea that this is a propaganda nickname is so absurd that I can only consider it a bold faced lie.

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xethos 1y ago

You've got that backwards. Originally stemming from the War Department, the "Department of Defense" is a cuddly name so Americans can feel better about, and potentially ignore, being warmongers.

dragonwriter 1y ago
> You've got that backwards No, I don't. The legal name of the Department headed by Pete Hegseth is the Department of Defense, and it is the only name that entity has ever had. > Originally stemming from the War Department This a somewhat popular myth, resurgent recently because it is expressly part of the narrative of the Trump Administration and therefore the MAGA cult, but its false. The Department of War is the predecessor of the modern Departments of the Army and Air Force which it was split into, not the Department of Defense, which was created ex nihilo to be placed over the existing military departments at the same time one of those department s was being split. Originally, the US (following the British model, which also persisted until just after WWII) had two separate defense edtablishments, the Department of War (responsible for the Army) and Department of the Navy (responsible for the Navy and Marine Corps); after WWII a combined defense establishment was created above those, but at the same time it was created, the Air Force was split off from the Army and the War Department was split into the Department of the Army and the Department of the Air Force, which is why the Department of Defense is the only cabinet level department with subordinate entities also called “departments”.

bigbadfeline 1y ago

Are you saying this illegal? https://www.war.gov https://www.war.gov

dragonwriter 1y ago
I am saying that it is not the legal name of the Department. As far as I know its not illegal to refer to it as the Department of War, the Fighty Bunch, or Bob, but it is weirdly unprofessional to just start calling givernment departments by random made up names that aren’t what they are specified as in law.

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