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What the hell... I'll never use Ubuntu again. Or well, at least not for a while, even after it's removed. They call this "free software"?

by bashzor 14y ago

rscott 14y ago
Do you currently? Because I think there are already (12.04) some links to Amazon Instant videos in Unity by default.
gizmo686 14y ago
How do pre-installed ads violate any free-software doctrine? One can still access/modify the source code of any part of the operating system (except proprietary drivers). It does not attempt to hinder a users ability to do anything with the computer. An example of a free-software violation would be the bittorent clients, which have to way to disable obeying the private bit. While one does have access to the source code, and can therefore modify this themselves, the software is designed with the explicit intention to remove the users freedom to dis-obey the private bit. Adds are annoying, but do not affect any user freedoms. EDIT: Discussion on ubuntuforums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2060764 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2060764 Here is a quote of a quote of the technology director of Canocial: "Another addition is that we will be including Launcher web apps icons to Amazon and the Ubuntu One Music Store by default. We feel that these icons will provide convenient access to these resources for our users and also benefit the project with the generation of affiliate revenue in those cases that these resources are used. If our users choose to not use these Launcher icons, they can be easily removed by the user by dragging the icon to the trash." I got that from the linked forum, but haven't searched the mailing lists to validate it.
- zoowar 14y ago
  Do Not Track
andreasvc 14y ago
Free as in freedom. You're free to remove the ads.
postfuturist 14y ago
What about Firefox which has shipped with Google search default since forever, which Google pays Mozilla for, which Google makes money on? Will you never use Firefox again?
- bashzor 14y ago
  Hmm, that's a valid point. I just have the idea of Linux distributions as being completely free and non-profit oriented. Also I'm used to the OS having no ads by itself, only on webpages. Guess I overreacted.
  - vidarh 14y ago
    Ubuntu, Redhat, SuSE just to name three of the big distro's that have been part of commercial operations from the start...
  - ps258 14y ago
    You may wanna read up on what free software actually is. The free used by the FSF generally denotes that you have access to the source code and are free to modify and redistribute it. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
- human_error 14y ago
  Not the same thing. Firefox doesn't send my local searches to Google. What Ubuntu does is a privacy breach.
joefarish 14y ago
You are "free" to remove it if you want to.

What the hell... I'll never use Ubuntu again. Or well, at least not for a while, even after it's removed. They call this "free software"?

by bashzor 14y ago

What the hell... I'll never use Ubuntu again. Or well, at least not for a while, even after it's removed. They call this "free software"?

rscott 14y ago

Do you currently? Because I think there are already (12.04) some links to Amazon Instant videos in Unity by default.

gizmo686 14y ago

How do pre-installed ads violate any free-software doctrine? One can still access/modify the source code of any part of the operating system (except proprietary drivers). It does not attempt to hinder a users ability to do anything with the computer. An example of a free-software violation would be the bittorent clients, which have to way to disable obeying the private bit. While one does have access to the source code, and can therefore modify this themselves, the software is designed with the explicit intention to remove the users freedom to dis-obey the private bit. Adds are annoying, but do not affect any user freedoms. EDIT: Discussion on ubuntuforums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2060764 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2060764 Here is a quote of a quote of the technology director of Canocial: "Another addition is that we will be including Launcher web apps icons to Amazon and the Ubuntu One Music Store by default. We feel that these icons will provide convenient access to these resources for our users and also benefit the project with the generation of affiliate revenue in those cases that these resources are used. If our users choose to not use these Launcher icons, they can be easily removed by the user by dragging the icon to the trash." I got that from the linked forum, but haven't searched the mailing lists to validate it.

zoowar 14y ago
Do Not Track

andreasvc 14y ago

Free as in freedom. You're free to remove the ads.

postfuturist 14y ago

What about Firefox which has shipped with Google search default since forever, which Google pays Mozilla for, which Google makes money on? Will you never use Firefox again?

bashzor 14y ago
Hmm, that's a valid point. I just have the idea of Linux distributions as being completely free and non-profit oriented. Also I'm used to the OS having no ads by itself, only on webpages. Guess I overreacted.
- vidarh 14y ago
  Ubuntu, Redhat, SuSE just to name three of the big distro's that have been part of commercial operations from the start...
- ps258 14y ago
  You may wanna read up on what free software actually is. The free used by the FSF generally denotes that you have access to the source code and are free to modify and redistribute it. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
human_error 14y ago
Not the same thing. Firefox doesn't send my local searches to Google. What Ubuntu does is a privacy breach.

joefarish 14y ago

You are "free" to remove it if you want to.