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I keep telling people they’re not going to get owned just by booting a Windows 10 machine after october 14. Most people visit Google, Amazon, Youtube, Pinterest

by wvbdmp 1y ago

I keep telling people they’re not going to get owned just by booting a Windows 10 machine after october 14. Most people visit Google, Amazon, Youtube, Pinterest and Netflix and not much else. If you run sketchy stuff and click sketchy links, you could get owned under support, too. And if the NSA wants to spy on you specifically, Windows 11 isn’t going to stop them. The most pressing (non-compliance) reason to upgrade from Windows 10 is always just going to be that newer software versions may stop working. Perhaps most importantly games and Microsoft’s own stuff.

sunaookami 1y ago
You need an up2date browser with adblocker, that's the most important thing. I guess browsers will be supported for a few more years but after that you should definitely not use Windows 10 in fear of e.g. 0days served via ads and just use a Linux distribution instead (or better yet, do it now instead of buying new hardware just for Win11 or using crude hacks and unsupported workarounds).
rasz 1y ago
You are losing against Microsoft marketing. In Europe one of the biggest electronic chains MediaMarkt (think bestbuy in its heyday) is currently running commercials targeting older audience and clearly co-financed by Microsoft. Its all about dangers of doing basic ecommerce on "old unsupported computers" and how you are going to have all of your data and identity stolen if you dont upgrade _right now_ to a new computer with Win11.
- The_President 1y ago
  Funny how I just cleaned out a Windows 11 computer infested with malware that was used by a professional and infiltrated with an unknown vector. We think it was compromised via an ad.
  - janwl 1y ago
    A professional who didn’t use an ad blocker?
    - tracker1 1y ago
      A friend of mine's wife works in marketing and literally needs to run without an Ad Blocker for work. When I setup PiHole for them, had to manually set the DNS on her work computer to not block ads.
      - The_President 1y ago
        Yeah in our case this person is a professional in another industry and uses her device as an office machine... Adblockers are just not a thing they think about.
- hulitu 1y ago
  > In Europe one of the biggest electronic chains MediaMarkt (think bestbuy in its heyday) is currently running commercials targeting older audience and clearly co-financed by Microsoft So is the ARD, desguised as "news".
jezek2 1y ago
All software is full of security bugs, supported or not. While supported SW fixes known security bugs it also introduces new ones. Therefore it doesn't matter much, it's all vulnerable. Security patches are also increasingly misused by the vendors to push unwanted crap. Other security approaches are needed: firewall, updated browser + adblocker, not clicking on everything, doing research before installing stuff, etc.
blibble 1y ago
> Most people visit Google, Amazon, Youtube, Pinterest and Netflix and not much else anything with google adsense is a malware vector
mapotofu 1y ago
There are tons of sketchy ads on FB, Google, YT, etc., these aren’t safe/vetted sites, they’re crawling with scams.

by wvbdmp 1y ago

sunaookami 1y ago

You need an up2date browser with adblocker, that's the most important thing. I guess browsers will be supported for a few more years but after that you should definitely not use Windows 10 in fear of e.g. 0days served via ads and just use a Linux distribution instead (or better yet, do it now instead of buying new hardware just for Win11 or using crude hacks and unsupported workarounds).

rasz 1y ago

You are losing against Microsoft marketing. In Europe one of the biggest electronic chains MediaMarkt (think bestbuy in its heyday) is currently running commercials targeting older audience and clearly co-financed by Microsoft. Its all about dangers of doing basic ecommerce on "old unsupported computers" and how you are going to have all of your data and identity stolen if you dont upgrade _right now_ to a new computer with Win11.

The_President 1y ago
Funny how I just cleaned out a Windows 11 computer infested with malware that was used by a professional and infiltrated with an unknown vector. We think it was compromised via an ad.
- janwl 1y ago
  A professional who didn’t use an ad blocker?
  - tracker1 1y ago
    A friend of mine's wife works in marketing and literally needs to run without an Ad Blocker for work. When I setup PiHole for them, had to manually set the DNS on her work computer to not block ads.
    - The_President 1y ago
      Yeah in our case this person is a professional in another industry and uses her device as an office machine... Adblockers are just not a thing they think about.
hulitu 1y ago
> In Europe one of the biggest electronic chains MediaMarkt (think bestbuy in its heyday) is currently running commercials targeting older audience and clearly co-financed by Microsoft So is the ARD, desguised as "news".

jezek2 1y ago

All software is full of security bugs, supported or not. While supported SW fixes known security bugs it also introduces new ones. Therefore it doesn't matter much, it's all vulnerable. Security patches are also increasingly misused by the vendors to push unwanted crap. Other security approaches are needed: firewall, updated browser + adblocker, not clicking on everything, doing research before installing stuff, etc.

blibble 1y ago

> Most people visit Google, Amazon, Youtube, Pinterest and Netflix and not much else anything with google adsense is a malware vector

mapotofu 1y ago

There are tons of sketchy ads on FB, Google, YT, etc., these aren’t safe/vetted sites, they’re crawling with scams.