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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voting_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voting_by_country suggests that centralized electronic count

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voting_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voting_by_country suggests that centralized electronic counting is somewhat common, electronic voting machines in polling places are uncommon. So I think it's reasonable to say that, to paraphrase the earlier comment, putting an X in a box on a piece of paper is how it's done in most of the world. It's true that the ballots aren't always counted by hand.

ta1243 1y ago
Very few countries do national elections electronically (the ones most subject to interference) electronically. Sure with paper systems you might be able to swing upto say 1% of the vote without being detected (probably more like 0.1%), anything more will involve too many people for a conspiracy to remain. With electronic you can swing 20% without blinking. Scaling is bad when it comes to voting.
- bilekas 1y ago
  > With electronic you can swing 20% without blinking. You're going to have to give some citations for that because all electronic votes are usually backed by a paper ballot.. I've not heard of 20%~ swing and getting away with it.
nobody9999 1y ago
>So I think it's reasonable to say that, to paraphrase the earlier comment, putting an X in a box on a piece of paper is how it's done in most of the world. >It's true that the ballots aren't always counted by hand. I can't speak for other jurisdictions (although I understand that this is pretty common in the US), but where I live (NY) we do exactly that. Well, instead of marking an 'X', we fill in an oval for each item on the ballot and that paper ballot is then scanned and counted. If there are issues or the vote is very close, as with most places, a recount is done, first by machine and, if necessary, by hand. How is this different from the rest of the world?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voting_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voting_by_country suggests that centralized electronic count

by iainmerrick 1y ago

ta1243 1y ago
Very few countries do national elections electronically (the ones most subject to interference) electronically. Sure with paper systems you might be able to swing upto say 1% of the vote without being detected (probably more like 0.1%), anything more will involve too many people for a conspiracy to remain. With electronic you can swing 20% without blinking. Scaling is bad when it comes to voting.
- bilekas 1y ago
  > With electronic you can swing 20% without blinking. You're going to have to give some citations for that because all electronic votes are usually backed by a paper ballot.. I've not heard of 20%~ swing and getting away with it.
nobody9999 1y ago
>So I think it's reasonable to say that, to paraphrase the earlier comment, putting an X in a box on a piece of paper is how it's done in most of the world. >It's true that the ballots aren't always counted by hand. I can't speak for other jurisdictions (although I understand that this is pretty common in the US), but where I live (NY) we do exactly that. Well, instead of marking an 'X', we fill in an oval for each item on the ballot and that paper ballot is then scanned and counted. If there are issues or the vote is very close, as with most places, a recount is done, first by machine and, if necessary, by hand. How is this different from the rest of the world?