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Antenna gate wasn't real? I can reproduce the antenna fault with a significant drop in signal strength with one pinkie. I classify that as a major fault. For a

Antenna gate wasn't real? I can reproduce the antenna fault with a significant drop in signal strength with one pinkie. I classify that as a major fault. For a premium product, that's unacceptable.

batista 14y ago
>Antenna gate wasn't real? I can reproduce the antenna fault with a significant drop in signal strength with one pinkie. I classify that as a major fault. For a premium product, that's unacceptable. Really? Because tens (hundreds) of millions of people found it _totally acceptable_ and made that phone the top selling phone. Not to mention that they found that the "issue" was a non issue in practice.
- blinkingled 14y ago
  I know at least 3 friends of mine that bought the 4 on AT&T and suffered through several dropped calls - they even used my Moto once and Nexus the other time to complete their calls at the same place on the same carrier. So Antennagate was real, iPhone <5 dropped more calls than any other phone on AT&T. That's the disingenuous part about how Steve handled Antennagate - sure competitors dropped bars when holding hand over their antennas but the competitors antennas weren't badly designed such that they would be easily covered while holding the phone and their phones didn't drop as many calls. People decided to live with it but 2 out of my 3 friends are on non-iPhones as their work doesn't afford them dropped calls.
  - batista 14y ago
    Well, I, for one, still have an iPhone 4. Never updated on 4s (or 5). Never had any reception problems that I can recall (i.e not getting through a call). It might be that I get a good signal where I live and work (and in 2 different countries, neither of which is the states). So, YMMV. But, I do remember iPhone 4 owners actually reporting LESS dropped calls than iPhone 3GS: "iPhone 4 owners are reporting fewer dropped calls than iPhone 3GS owners": http://www.tuaw.com/2010/08/04/report-iphone-4-owners-report-fewer-dropped-calls-than-iphone-3/ http://www.tuaw.com/2010/08/04/report-iphone-4-owners-report... And after the media noise blew out, there weren't any complains about it --as if the forums and people forgot all about it--, just people using their phones. And AT&T could be to blame, not the iPhone. For: ""According to a March study by ChangeWave Research, AT&T is the reason the iPhone drops calls. Users of the Verizon iPhone 4 reported a 1.8% dropped-call rate, the same rate as users of other Verizon phones. Users of the AT&T iPhone 4 reported a 4.8% dropped-call rate, 2.7 times the rate of Verizon iPhone users.""
- bitcartel 14y ago
  It was real enough that Apple settled a class action lawsuit over the dodgy antenna. http://articles.cnn.com/2012-02-20/tech/tech_mobile_iphone-4-antenna-settlement_1_antenna-problem-iphone-protective-case?_s=PM:TECH http://articles.cnn.com/2012-02-20/tech/tech_mobile_iphone-4...
  - gridaphobe 14y ago
    Heh I'd be very hesitant to visit iphone4settlement.com had I not just read the article. Something about that screams malware to me.. But I guess Apple probably knew that when they bought the domain.
SpikeDad 14y ago
And since the exact same "fault" appears in 75% of the phones of that generation your point is what? Oh, nothing.

Antenna gate wasn't real? I can reproduce the antenna fault with a significant drop in signal strength with one pinkie. I classify that as a major fault. For a premium product, that's unacceptable.

batista 14y ago

>Antenna gate wasn't real? I can reproduce the antenna fault with a significant drop in signal strength with one pinkie. I classify that as a major fault. For a premium product, that's unacceptable. Really? Because tens (hundreds) of millions of people found it _totally acceptable_ and made that phone the top selling phone. Not to mention that they found that the "issue" was a non issue in practice.

blinkingled 14y ago
I know at least 3 friends of mine that bought the 4 on AT&T and suffered through several dropped calls - they even used my Moto once and Nexus the other time to complete their calls at the same place on the same carrier. So Antennagate was real, iPhone <5 dropped more calls than any other phone on AT&T. That's the disingenuous part about how Steve handled Antennagate - sure competitors dropped bars when holding hand over their antennas but the competitors antennas weren't badly designed such that they would be easily covered while holding the phone and their phones didn't drop as many calls. People decided to live with it but 2 out of my 3 friends are on non-iPhones as their work doesn't afford them dropped calls.
- batista 14y ago
  Well, I, for one, still have an iPhone 4. Never updated on 4s (or 5). Never had any reception problems that I can recall (i.e not getting through a call). It might be that I get a good signal where I live and work (and in 2 different countries, neither of which is the states). So, YMMV. But, I do remember iPhone 4 owners actually reporting LESS dropped calls than iPhone 3GS: "iPhone 4 owners are reporting fewer dropped calls than iPhone 3GS owners": http://www.tuaw.com/2010/08/04/report-iphone-4-owners-report-fewer-dropped-calls-than-iphone-3/ http://www.tuaw.com/2010/08/04/report-iphone-4-owners-report... And after the media noise blew out, there weren't any complains about it --as if the forums and people forgot all about it--, just people using their phones. And AT&T could be to blame, not the iPhone. For: ""According to a March study by ChangeWave Research, AT&T is the reason the iPhone drops calls. Users of the Verizon iPhone 4 reported a 1.8% dropped-call rate, the same rate as users of other Verizon phones. Users of the AT&T iPhone 4 reported a 4.8% dropped-call rate, 2.7 times the rate of Verizon iPhone users.""
bitcartel 14y ago
It was real enough that Apple settled a class action lawsuit over the dodgy antenna. http://articles.cnn.com/2012-02-20/tech/tech_mobile_iphone-4-antenna-settlement_1_antenna-problem-iphone-protective-case?_s=PM:TECH http://articles.cnn.com/2012-02-20/tech/tech_mobile_iphone-4...
- gridaphobe 14y ago
  Heh I'd be very hesitant to visit iphone4settlement.com had I not just read the article. Something about that screams malware to me.. But I guess Apple probably knew that when they bought the domain.

SpikeDad 14y ago

And since the exact same "fault" appears in 75% of the phones of that generation your point is what? Oh, nothing.