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you need to break some eggs to make an omelette. it's not a coincidence that he is landing skyscrapers while you're talking shit about him on HN.

toss1 1y ago
Yes, you need to break some eggs to make an omelette, but you do not need to spend more than a quarter-Billion dollars to help elect an administration working to end democracy in order to build a new spacecraft. In fact the spacecraft development would likely go better without any political intervention at all; it is widely seen as a distraction, and rightly so.
- misiti3780 1y ago
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  - toss1 1y ago
    Nice offtopic whataboutism tic you have there... The point was that it is and was completely unnecessary for the particular omlette of making new self-landing spacecraft to break the particular eggs of spending all that time and money on politics. They are two entirely different pursuits, negating the GP comment. As for Harris, you are comparing an exaggerated number for total campaign spend to Musk's $250-$400 million spending as a single donor to a campaign in which he was not running. Comparing apples-to-apples, the Trump and Harris campaigns spent comparable amounts [0], and that is officially, not counting the massive media coverage Trump obtains for free. [0] https://www.ft.com/content/c3613e1b-c15d-47b8-a502-400c4114c09e https://www.ft.com/content/c3613e1b-c15d-47b8-a502-400c4114c...
    - King-Aaron 1y ago
      It should be noted also, that to normal people, the answer is yes - any politician wasting taxpayer money is a huge problem. It is absurd when people bring up the whataboutism as if everyone is as politically biased as they themselves are.
      - misiti3780 1y ago
        I'm not politically biased. I'm an independent and didn't like either candidate in 2024
    - misiti3780 1y ago
      Elon said the reason he spent that money was because he thought a Harris presidency would be a disaster for the country, worse than a 2nd Trump presidency. You may not agree with it, but that doesn't make it "nefarious" and "blatantly illegal." I actually don't particularly like Elon and I don't like Trump or Harris and didn't vote for either. I also have no issues pointing out his accomplishments. I was pointing out that every time SpaceX or Tesla do something cool, people like you show up and have to make it political, which is super annoying and possibly a violation of the HN guidelines.
King-Aaron 1y ago
Does it need to be a competition in your eyes? Is allowing root-level access to the nations critical government infrastructure for his cronies and removing funding for organisations investigating his companies for wrongdoing the necessary broken eggs to land a flying skyscraper? I don't understand why 'the ends justify the means' is a good answer.
- misiti3780 1y ago
  "root-level access to the nations critical government infrastructure" - link to what you are referring to please?
  - King-Aaron 1y ago
    I am sure you haven't been living under a rock during the DOGE debacle.

toss1 1y ago

Yes, you need to break some eggs to make an omelette, but you do not need to spend more than a quarter-Billion dollars to help elect an administration working to end democracy in order to build a new spacecraft. In fact the spacecraft development would likely go better without any political intervention at all; it is widely seen as a distraction, and rightly so.

misiti3780 1y ago
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- toss1 1y ago
  Nice offtopic whataboutism tic you have there... The point was that it is and was completely unnecessary for the particular omlette of making new self-landing spacecraft to break the particular eggs of spending all that time and money on politics. They are two entirely different pursuits, negating the GP comment. As for Harris, you are comparing an exaggerated number for total campaign spend to Musk's $250-$400 million spending as a single donor to a campaign in which he was not running. Comparing apples-to-apples, the Trump and Harris campaigns spent comparable amounts [0], and that is officially, not counting the massive media coverage Trump obtains for free. [0] https://www.ft.com/content/c3613e1b-c15d-47b8-a502-400c4114c09e https://www.ft.com/content/c3613e1b-c15d-47b8-a502-400c4114c...
  - King-Aaron 1y ago
    It should be noted also, that to normal people, the answer is yes - any politician wasting taxpayer money is a huge problem. It is absurd when people bring up the whataboutism as if everyone is as politically biased as they themselves are.
    - misiti3780 1y ago
      I'm not politically biased. I'm an independent and didn't like either candidate in 2024
  - misiti3780 1y ago
    Elon said the reason he spent that money was because he thought a Harris presidency would be a disaster for the country, worse than a 2nd Trump presidency. You may not agree with it, but that doesn't make it "nefarious" and "blatantly illegal." I actually don't particularly like Elon and I don't like Trump or Harris and didn't vote for either. I also have no issues pointing out his accomplishments. I was pointing out that every time SpaceX or Tesla do something cool, people like you show up and have to make it political, which is super annoying and possibly a violation of the HN guidelines.

King-Aaron 1y ago

Does it need to be a competition in your eyes? Is allowing root-level access to the nations critical government infrastructure for his cronies and removing funding for organisations investigating his companies for wrongdoing the necessary broken eggs to land a flying skyscraper? I don't understand why 'the ends justify the means' is a good answer.

misiti3780 1y ago
"root-level access to the nations critical government infrastructure" - link to what you are referring to please?
- King-Aaron 1y ago
  I am sure you haven't been living under a rock during the DOGE debacle.